# Psst .. Tim, there is a mistake in your hot dish recipe! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [October 10, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638 "2024-10-10T20:39:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/61 "2024-10-12T03:46:00Z")
BTW, you actually omitted a specific brand mentioned in the recipe. I don’t think I need to spell out which one. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/62 "2024-10-12T03:48:12Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I’d do 1 1/2 cups of cheddar cheese _divided_ mix 1/2in and sprinkle the rest. Peas, and or corn with the celery. I like the spinach idea. Maybe a small bit of ground red pepper. Love it! Excellent variation (I think - of course there is no substitute for testing, but instinct tells me you have good ideas). ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/63 "2024-10-12T03:50:11Z")
It starts with a “kuh” sound, right? Camphor, or something like that? I know a “P” sound - you know, that upstart soup company, Progresso - is right out. ETA related to following post: alright, Schell’s Beer it is! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/64 "2024-10-12T03:50:51Z")
Walz’s recipe specifies Schell’s beer. > ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/65 "2024-10-12T04:42:49Z")
But does that meet Becks specs? I doubt it. Walz is an imposter, as am I. I do cook for my family, but I’m not the main cooker and I cannot provide my bona fides here. I would love too, but they would be scoffed at and discounted so I won’t even try. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/66 "2024-10-12T04:48:20Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > But does that meet Becks specs? I doubt it. Walz is an imposter, as am I. I do cook for my family, but I’m not the main cooker and I cannot provide my bona fides here. I would love too, but they would be scoffed at and discounted so I won’t even try.  Idk, do you look the part? That’s all that matters. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/67 "2024-10-12T04:55:03Z")
Agreed, 100%. And I will not comment on who I am or what I look like. I have immediate family that is VERY disparate. I have one sibling with Hispanic family members. I have one sibling with Asian family members (we’ve raised some of them). My wife and I have very interesting mixes in our fams. You know what party makes my family nervous? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/68 "2024-10-12T05:00:55Z")
I believe you. My husband didn’t cook often, and probably doesn’t look like he ever did, but when he did cook it was damned good. He made excellent chili (in my opinion) and bean soup among other things. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/69 "2024-10-12T09:04:03Z")
I have no specs. Just called it like I see it. It’s fine if you don’t. All kinda ridiculous. Oh, sorry. Another opinion. 😳 (BTW, I happen to like Walz. I think he’ll make a great VP) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/70 "2024-10-12T12:01:23Z")
[Moderating] > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Not sure what that food you mentioned is, but I find him very friendly and amiable looking. The type that’s in the kitchen while food prep is happening. Not really participating. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Well, I don’t really know him, of course. > > He’s not turned up in my kitchen. > > People do have types. He looks like a Hollywood example of good ol’ boy. > Sorry if you find it judgemental of me. > Tell me, truthfully you’ve never looked at someone and thought something. Maybe you were wrong. Maybe you were close. This thread is about Walz’ hot dish recipe, not about what “type” he is. Let’s avoid the hijacks, please (and everyone else, drop the subject as well). ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/71 "2024-10-13T02:55:07Z")
Deleted, for obvious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/72 "2024-10-13T03:07:50Z")
Can you use loaded tater tots and still have it be legit? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/73 "2024-10-13T03:10:38Z")
Prior to Tim Walz’ appearance on the scene, I had never heard of “hotdish.” But given the recipes and comments posted, I’m curious to try it. It sounds good. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/74 "2024-10-13T03:15:08Z")
Hotdishes are just glorified casseroles. If you have Campbell’s soup, tinned meat/fowl/fish, and pasta/macaroni in your pantry, you can whip one up in no time. It’s a handy way of cleaning out your fridge, if you belong to the “no food wasted” crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/75 "2024-10-13T03:44:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Walz’s recipe specifies Schell’s beer. Which is the actual mistake in the recipe. Miller High Life (the Champagne of Beers) is the only beer to use when cooking brats. 1 to 2 tallboys plus sufficient water. Onions and (maybe) garlic in the boil. @CairoCarol - I would add 1/4-1/2 tsp of cayenne to that instead of white pepper. I find cayenne to be a better “brightener” than white pepper, but I’m Southern so that may influence. I love white pepper but it can be ‘spicy’ even in low quantities. Cayenne isn’t hot until you can really taste it - at least IMHO. To the OP: That’s exactly the kind of recipe I would expect to find in Granny’s book 'o recipes. She would assume she had certain things and so wouldn’t specify them until needed (i.e. the topping cheese - of course she has cheese!). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/76 "2024-10-13T03:51:37Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > I would add 1/4-1/2 tsp of cayenne to that instead of white pepper. I find cayenne to be a better “brightener” than white pepper, but I’m Southern so that may influence. I love white pepper but it can be ‘spicy’ even in low quantities. Cayenne isn’t hot until you can really taste it - at least IMHO. Lol, i find capsaicin toxic. White pepper is okay, if you don’t over do it. But if you start adding cayenne, i ain’t eating that dish. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/77 "2024-10-13T03:55:16Z")
In our family home, white pepper was preferred. Black pepper was okay, but white pepper was what was on the table. If you can allow that it sneaks up on you, it’s not bad; but again, you don’t want to overdo it. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/78 "2024-10-13T04:03:24Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > @CairoCarol - I would add 1/4-1/2 tsp of cayenne to that instead of white pepper. I’d personally be very happy with that. Long live the variations! ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/79 "2024-10-13T04:34:03Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Prior to Tim Walz’ appearance on the scene, I had never heard of “hotdish.” But given the recipes and comments posted, I’m curious to try it. It is really good, however you end up making it. In layers or everything but the tater tots mixed together, with green beans and corn or with pea…. > **[The BEST Tater Tot Casserole](https://www.momontimeout.com/the-best-tater-tot-casserole/)** > > Truly the BEST Tater Tot Casserole recipe around! Layers of amazing flavor combine for an easy and delicious dinner any night of the week! This fantastic casserole recipe will quickly become a family favorite! ‘Hot dish’ is a regional name for that kind of homey, hearty casserole~where I grew up in Iowa it was called ‘tater tot casserole’ and is always a hit at potlucks or brought in to feed teachers staying late for parent/teacher conferences, funeral lunches or dinners. Same dish, just distinctive, localized names for a dependable comfort food that has the added bonus of warming the house up baking in the oven for an hour. It’s easy to assemble the night before or the morning of and then slide into the oven an hour before it’s needed. Transports well covered with foil wrapped in an old blanket on the floor of your car. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/80 "2024-10-13T04:42:15Z")
If any people with personal familiarity with Midwestern/Minnesota cuisine would like to weigh in on how “funeral potatoes” intersect with “hot dish” (or hotdish, not sure which is most authentic), I’ll read with interest. I’ve got a couple, maybe more, “funeral potato” recipes tucked away to try sometime (at least one from the SDMB, I think) but haven’t gotten around to trying one yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638.md?page=5)