# Psycho-Why the Long Drawn Out shower murder? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 17, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905 "2015-04-17T13:37:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/41 "2015-04-18T06:13:53Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I’ve heard this said, but is there any cite for it? I can’t imagine being in some dumpy movie theater in the middle of nowhere and the minimum wage usher saying, “Sorry, pal. Alfred’s rules. You’ll have to wait for the next show!” > > Also, I don’t understand the point of viewing a movie ending first… The film’s [Wikipedia page](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho_%281960_film%29) talks about this (in the Controversy section) and there’s even a poster urging people to see it from the beginning. I’ve always heard that coming and going at any point in a film was very common, and sitting through features multiple times without being asked to leave is something I’ve experienced myself (I didn’t go see Star Wars over 100 times on first run by paying separately on different days each and every time. I think my record was 5 times in one day. I just lifted my feet up when they came in to clean and no one ever said a word to me. You sure can’t do that nowadays). ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/42 "2015-04-18T13:41:45Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > No, now you know how _The Mystery of the Wax Museum_ ends. That’s the one with Atwill. Oh, phew! That’s a relief! :o ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/43 "2015-04-18T13:42:50Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Oh, in all three versions of the _Titanic_, the ship sinks. Including the German one? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/44 "2015-04-18T13:48:40Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Oh, in all three versions of the _Titanic_, the ship sinks. Even the one with the [rapping dog](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHNztg0X3s)? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/45 "2015-04-18T14:00:38Z")
I’ll bet one reason he did was to spend a long time shooting a scene with Janet Leigh standing nearly naked in a shower. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/46 "2015-04-18T14:37:13Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’ll bet one reason he did was to spend a long time shooting a scene with Janet Leigh standing nearly naked in a shower. It wasn’t her for most of the shots, there was a body double for any shot that didn’t show Leigh’s face. > **[Marli Renfro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marli_Renfro)** > > Marli Renfro (born April 3, 1938 in Los Angeles, California) is an American former showgirl, model, Playboy cover girl and actress. > She was the body double for Janet Leigh in the shower scene of the 1960 film Psycho. > Renfro, described as a free spirit with a lifelong commitment to nudism, appeared in many men's magazines including Ace, Adam, Beau, Dude, Escapade, Follies, Gala and Modern Man. She also appeared on the cover of the September 1960 edition of Playboy. > [@](#): > > Only later did Hitchcock acknowledge that when Leigh’s face is seen it is her, otherwise it is Renfro. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/47 "2015-04-18T14:43:53Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > It wasn’t her for most of the shots, there was a body double for any shot that didn’t show Leigh’s face. > > [Marli Renfro - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marli_Renfro) I’ll bet one reason he did it was to spend a long time shooting a scene with Janet Leigh and Marli Renfro standing nearly naked in a shower. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/48 "2015-04-18T15:13:59Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Both are unrelated to the movie _House of Wax_ a few years ago, with gratuitous Paris Hilton, the less about which is said, the better. That film is actually a cut above the conventional slasher flick, for reasons that have nothing to do with Paris Hilton: The film’s heroine gets a baseball bat and goes to town on one of the villains, clubs him 12 or 13 times, and he does not get back up. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/49 "2015-04-18T16:58:31Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Including the German one? :dubious: _Especially_ the German one. Actually, this film would make a great MST3K film. I like Sybille Schmitz, but yikes. This was supposed to be a propaganda film about how the British were so greedy they let the ship sink, but when it was finished, even the Nazi propaganda ministry knew it was too awful to release, and it was never released in Nazi Germany. I think it’s first release was in West Germany in the 1950s, although I have it in the back of my head that it may have been shown in a few occupied countries during the war, just not in Germany itself. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/50 "2015-04-18T17:10:44Z")
In what sense is the shower scene long and drawn out? It’s 2 minutes and 48 seconds long (from the point she steps into the shower to the point that the camera leaves the shower) in a movie that’s 109 minutes long. It’s from 0:44 to 3:32 in the following clip. It doesn’t strike me as being long and drawn out at all. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VP5jEAP3K4) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905/51 "2015-04-18T17:53:23Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’ll bet one reason he did it was to spend a long time shooting a scene with Janet Leigh and Marli Renfro standing nearly naked in a shower. CUT! No, no, ladies, you have to really get those soap suds working. Lather. Rub the soap INTO your chest. Okay? Action. CUT! Let the water hit you in the face more sensually… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psycho-why-the-long-drawn-out-shower-murder/717905.md?page=2)