# Pub/tavern names: The This and That **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699 "2011-10-25T02:18:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zombywoof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/9e8a1a/32.png) [@zombywoof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zombywoof)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/21 "2011-10-25T17:29:14Z")
Two here in Austin are The Crown and Anchor and The Dog and Duck. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/22 "2011-10-25T17:51:17Z")
21 posts and no mention of _The Elephant & Castle_? The name dates back to a pub at the London intersection in 1750, but it’s been used multiple times since, including for a restaurant chain in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/23 "2011-10-25T18:01:08Z")
Here in Seattle, I used to spend considerable time at The Owl and Thistle and The George and Dragon. Spent one evening in a down-under place called The Kangaroo and Kiwi. I’m only a block or so away from The Pig and Whistle, but I’ve never been. Nowadays, the only place I go regularly is The Old Pequliar, which doesn’t fit the thread. ---
**Author:** ![justrob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@justrob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justrob)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/24 "2011-10-25T18:08:24Z")
There is the Bull & Finch in Boston that was the inspiration for Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/25 "2011-10-25T18:41:35Z")
Cincinnati has 3 bars named **The Cock & Bull**. Beavis and Butt-head approve. ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/26 "2011-10-25T18:42:41Z")
The Cask and Flagon outside Fenway Park in Boston. ---
**Author:** ![ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/27 "2011-10-25T18:45:57Z")
The Pig and Pickerel in Albany, NY Holmes and Watson in Troy, NY ---
**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/28 "2011-10-25T23:05:43Z")
> [@Small\_Clanger](#): > > Here you go, the [Frog and Radiator](http://www.inapub.co.uk/pubs/frog-radiator/london/SE100RA/25300.aspx) it’s a real place and it’s been there (and called that) for as long as I remember, It was called the Ship and Billet when I lived in Greenwich (Admittedly that was over thirty years ago). ---
**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/29 "2011-10-25T23:10:47Z")
> [@cjepson](#): > > When I first visited England, I was surprised to see a pub called the [Hope and Anchor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_and_Anchor,_Islington), as that’s the [state flag of Rhode Island](http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/flags/ri_flag.htm), where I was born and raised… obviously both must be based on some age-old heraldic device (although it’s kind of cool to imagine Rhode Island taking its state flag from a pub sign). On the other hand the [Anchor and Hope](http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/516376) on the Thames at Charlton was where sailing barges would \*anchor \* and _hope_ to get a cargo. ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699/30 "2011-10-26T04:07:11Z")
In the NJ town I grew up in we have [The Shepherd & The Knucklehead](http://www.theshepnj.com/Welcome.html). The owner is also the author of the [book by the same name](http://www.amazon.com/Shepherd-Knucklehead-Christopher-M-Schiavo/dp/0738859842). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pub-tavern-names-the-this-and-that/600699.md?page=1)