# Public High School Teacher Teaching Creationism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 26, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317 "2014-02-26T13:42:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/21 "2014-02-26T20:50:23Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> I feel the same way … but also, not just that he is teaching religion, not Science, but that his put the school district at risk. THAT probably pisses me off as much as the teaching YEC…our schools don’t have enough money to waste any on lawsuits so that the students and their parents are ensured of their constitutional rights.

I wonder how he’d respond if a knowledgeable parent or other asked for equal time to talk about evolution and point out the lies and crap in the Hovind video.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/22 "2014-02-26T20:51:33Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> I have no issue with Creationism being taught in public schools in a Comparative Religion class. Or in a Mythology class. NOT in a Science class.

Exactly. It’s not illegal to teach Creationism in a public school.

…but I suspect it’s against school policy to be a) not teaching the subject you were hired to teach and b) teaching Religion when you haven’t been hired to teach Religion (or maybe Literature).

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/23 "2014-02-26T20:57:54Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> no, that’s wrong, the pixie is spells his name kyriel.

kill the heretic!!!..!!!..!!!

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/24 "2014-02-26T21:46:40Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> If you really want to try to change the minds of committed creationists (who are relatively few in number)…

They may be few, but they sure have a lot of money and make [a lot of noise.](http://www.answersingenesis.org/)

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/25 "2014-02-26T22:08:04Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Does it really matter ? For all the ‘_Think of the Children !_’ frenzy, just remember that all the 18th and 19th century scientists who brought us to present knowledge of science and evolution were taught creationism.  
> People come to make their own judgements later on, one just needs faith in ordinary people’s perception.

To mis-quote McLuhan, “The medium is the message.” A Teacher presenting this information in a classroom is automatically assumed to be an authority figure presenting facts - this is the medium. The overarching message is that “this information is accurate”. Yes, we expect students to develop critical thinking skills (but usually not until college), but we don’t really expect them to be approaching their lessons with active skepticism.

So, to your point - hogwash!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/26 "2014-02-26T22:51:17Z")

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Who is this Kent Hovind the OP mentioned?

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/27 "2014-02-26T22:56:37Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Who is this Kent Hovind the OP mentioned?

From the linked article:

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> Hovind founded the Creation Science Evangelism organization and Dinosaur Adventure Land, a now defunct creationist theme park in Pensacola, Fla. In 2007, he was sentenced to 10 years in prison on federal tax charges, according to the Pensacola News Journal.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/28 "2014-02-26T23:10:41Z")

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Ugh, he sounds like a scam artist to me.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/29 "2014-02-27T00:12:07Z")

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He’s one of the leaders - if that’s the right term - of the current incarnation of creationism.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-high-school-teacher-teaching-creationism/682317/30 "2014-02-27T01:36:25Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> But anyway, it is useless arguing with creationists. As the cliché goes, you can’t use reason to get them out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

But anyway, it is useless arguing with **people**. As the cliché goes, you can’t use reason to get them out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

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