# Public Surveillance Cams Redux: Big Brother watching. Yea or nay?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 5, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847 "2007-04-05T13:11:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847/41 "2007-04-17T23:51:31Z")

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In a primitive sense, we already have cameras with sound here on Sydney’s rail network. I recently was privy to a funny (to me anyway) incident on a suburban station…

_Recorded message:_ Ding ding DING! Riding bicycles, skateboards, and scooters… is.,… not… permitted… on Cityrail property…

[pause]

_Recorded message:_ Ding ding DING! Riding bicycles, skateboards, and scooters… is.,… not… permitted… on Cityrail property…

[pause]

_Recorded message:_ Ding ding DING! Riding bicycles, skateboards, and scooters… is.,… not… permitted… on Cityrail property…

[brief pause]

_Manual announcement:_ **WOULD THE IDIOT ON THAT BICYCLE…**

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847/42 "2007-04-18T00:13:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
How would they know your supposed to be getting milk, and not an 18"IBDHJD?  
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Well, they wouldn’t necessarily. What they would know is that you bought something in the fetish shop and just maybe you wouldn’t want your wife to know you bought it. Plus, they’re all on the take with the milk advisory board. Everyone knows MAB is run by the Mafia.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847/43 "2007-04-18T01:18:22Z")

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[QUOTE=spoke-]  
No, that’s wrong. The Supreme Court ruled that a warrant is required for infrared surveillance of a house: [Kyllo v. United States](http://supreme.justia.com/us/533/27/case.html), 533 US 27 (2000):

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Thank you for the correction. I probably only heard about a lower court ruling.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847/44 "2007-04-18T16:40:38Z")

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Fight every single intrusion. Once your rights are gone you wont get them back. It is a mistake to figure ,what have I got to hide. There is a cost to your freedom and an erosion of your rights.Don’t just give them away.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/public-surveillance-cams-redux-big-brother-watching-yea-or-nay/398847/45 "2007-04-18T19:48:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Epimetheus]  
I’m all for it. Who cares if it is a camera or a person. You go into public you can get seen by others.  
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Being seen by other people is not the same thing as having someone dedicated to watching you for the purpose of determining whether or not you’re doing anything wrong.

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