# Pudd’nhead Trump nominates Neil Gorsuch for Supreme Court Jester

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**Created:** [February 1, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719 "2017-02-01T01:09:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/41 "2017-02-01T16:08:07Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> It seems to be an excellent choice, a Scalia for a Scalia. (Gorsuch very much modeled himself on Scalia whom he much admired.)

So, I assume that if Ruth Bader Ginsberg leaves the Court during the Trump Administration, you will want him to nominate someone in her mold?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/42 "2017-02-01T16:16:11Z")

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Gorsuch? Any relation to Reagan’s crazy cabinet member?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/43 "2017-02-01T16:18:31Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> My fear was Cruz. This could have been a lot worse.

No way. His dad shot Kennedy. National Enquirer said so, and they’re a reliable news source. #AlternativeFact

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/44 "2017-02-01T16:50:29Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> It seems to be an excellent choice, a Scalia for a Scalia. (Gorsuch very much modeled himself on Scalia whom he much admired.)

Almost Shakespearian an insult.  
_“Why, Sir, I shalt protest: thou hast given a Scalia for a Scalia; a very Scalia ! I want no Antonins. Nor eat I vile scallions. Hast thou no shame ?”_

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**Author:** ![Iggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Iggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggins)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/45 "2017-02-01T22:13:54Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Gorsuch? Any relation to Reagan’s crazy cabinet member?

His mom.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/46 "2017-02-01T22:35:07Z")

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Gorsuch is one of the current crop of neo-conservatives who hasn’t figured out (at least publicly, for political reasons) why religion is at the root of much strife in the world today. Great choice, that being the only obvious drawback with him.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/47 "2017-02-01T22:39:41Z")

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So, it appears that Mr. Gorsuch doesn’t have that clear a record on abortion issues. I don’t find that particularly reassuring. He is a Scalia fanboy, by his own testimony, but even that may not be worrisome, if he were to clarify. Which he doesn’t seem to have done.

The fanatic “pro-life” wing of the right? Are they celebrating? Do they see him a just want they wanted? And if so, why? The Trumpiviks know who they are and want they want, would they dare to disappoint them? Even assuming that they were willing to.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/48 "2017-02-01T23:20:46Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> So, I assume that if Ruth Bader Ginsberg leaves the Court during the Trump Administration, you will want him to nominate someone in her mold?

Not at all. My comment was in reference to some Democrats’ resistance to Gorsuch. As it is merely replacing one conservative with another the balance of SCOTUS would not be altered. Now if all this fuss was relating to the replacement of a liberal Justice it would be more understandable (though equally futile).

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/49 "2017-02-02T00:39:27Z")

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I think the Dems should resist, just to bust balls and should say that is why.

The Repubs busted Obama’s balls over the SC, they were promising to bust Hillary’s balls, so let’s have some fun with them for a change.

Why the hell not. Tit for tat.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/50 "2017-02-02T01:01:40Z")

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[Trump Hails Gorsuch As Fierce Protector Of Future Amendment Allowing President To Temporarily Suspend Right To Assemble

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> Praising the federal appellate judge’s commitment to upholding the Constitution, President Trump hailed his Supreme Court justice nominee Neil Gorsuch as a fierce protector of the future amendment that will allow the president to temporarily suspend the right to assemble. “I am confident that Judge Gorsuch will do everything in his power to see that every line of the Constitution, including the forthcoming amendment to grant the executive branch the power to halt all public protests, will be safeguarded as the law of the land,” said Trump, adding that Gorsuch’s strict adherence to the country’s supreme law, both in its present and very near future iterations, was what drew him to the 49-year-old judge in the first place. “If his track record is any indication, Judge Gorsuch will act as a stalwart defender of our nation’s founding legal document, which will soon contain a 28th amendment granting the president sole authority to restrict the public’s ability to collectively air grievances. He has my full vote of confidence in these matters.” Trump went on to say, however, that Gorsuch was also practical enough to know when certain parts of the Constitution didn’t need to be taken quite so seriously.

]([Trump Hails Gorsuch As Fierce Protector Of Future Amendment Allowing President To Temporarily Suspend Right To Assemble](http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-hails-gorsuch-fierce-protector-future-amendm-55201))[This source has been prophetic before…](http://www.theonion.com/article/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-pros-464)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/51 "2017-02-02T03:46:52Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Trump Hails Gorsuch As Fierce Protector Of Future Amendment Allowing President To Temporarily Suspend Right To Assemble](http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-hails-gorsuch-fierce-protector-future-amendm-55201)[This source has been prophetic before…](http://www.theonion.com/article/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-pros-464)

Oh, fuck no.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/52 "2017-02-02T03:58:51Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Oh, fuck no.

It’s The Onion, a parody site.

That said, let’s pretend it’s real for a moment:

> [@Fake Trump Quote](#):
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> I am confident that Judge Gorsuch will do everything in his power to see that every line of the Constitution, including the forthcoming amendment to grant the executive branch the power to halt all public protests, will be safeguarded as the law of the land.

If the Constitution were amended to grant the executive branch the power to halt all public protests, then what possible basis would a federal court have to do anything OTHER than safeguard that as the law of the land? It would be, in fact, the supreme law of the land. It would modify the First Amendment guarantee of assembly.

Right?

There’s no such thing as an unconstitutional provision of the Constitution.

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/53 "2017-02-02T04:27:25Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> It’s The Onion, a parody site.

I think he knows that…but did you click on his 2nd link? …It was pretty prophetic about the last Republican nightmare ([relinked for your clicking pleasure](http://www.theonion.com/article/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-pros-464)). It probably has a better track record than all conservative pundits put together.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/54 "2017-02-02T04:32:11Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Don’t you think we should wait until the next election to let the people have a voice in this?

Well the people have spoken. So really, Hillary should select the justice.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/55 "2017-02-02T05:21:41Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Well the people have spoken. So really, Hillary should select the justice.

The only thing Hillary will be selecting in future is what pantsuit to wear each day.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/56 "2017-02-02T05:24:22Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I think the Dems should resist, just to bust balls and should say that is why.
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> The Repubs busted Obama’s balls over the SC, they were promising to bust Hillary’s balls, so let’s have some fun with them for a change.
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> Why the hell not. Tit for tat.

The difference is that the Republicans held the Senate majority when Scalia died during the Obama years, and they still have the Senate majority now. Ball-busting is significantly harder as the minority, especially if the filibuster vanishes.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/57 "2017-02-02T07:59:47Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> What evidence is there that he is a pro-life candidate? Will he vote to overturn Roe vs Wade? Any pro-life decisions he has made?

He ruled for Hobby Lobby on the Tenth Circuit, before that appeal was shot down by the Supreme Court. While not about abortion per se, the case certainly dealt with an issue that is closely related.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/58 "2017-02-02T08:09:10Z")

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I’m a bit confused, here, since I expected a nominee who was clearly and publicly antagonistic towards choice. I expect that the pro-life base that supported Trump also expected it, but maybe not so much as Trump didn’t seem eager to push that button at his rallies. So far as I can tell, none of the major pro-life orgs have commented on the nomination. Curiouser.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/59 "2017-02-02T08:19:35Z")

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National Right to Life web page notes the nomination of Gorsuch, naming “pro-life President Trump” and offering transcripts of his and Gorsuch’s speeches, and nothing in the way of editorial opinion on the fact.

My guess is that they don’t know if they are happy about it, or not. Or, if happy, how happy?

> **[President Trump introduces Judge Neil Gorsuch as Justice Scalia’s replacement...](https://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/2017/02/president-trump-introduces-judge-neil-gorsuch-as-justice-scalias-replacement/)**
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> By Dave Andrusko As NRLC wrote late last night, pro-life President Donald Trump has nominated federal appeals court judge Neil Gorsuch as his choice to fill the Supreme Court vacancy created by the death last February of Justice Antonin Scalia. We...

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pudd-nhead-trump-nominates-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court-jester/778719/60 "2017-02-02T08:58:48Z")

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They have til the end of the first trimester to decide.  
However I wish Messers Trump and Gorsuch could have been a little more effusive about each other.

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