# Puff Daddy Arrested for Sex Trafficking **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416 "2024-09-18T01:27:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/1 "2024-09-18T01:27:48Z")
I’m surprised that I can’t find a thread on this already. Sean Combs, aka Puff Daddy aka P Diddy aka Diddy aka PD aka Love (as he is referenced in court papers) is currently sitting in jail, without bond, after being indicted on federal charges concerning sex trafficking and other abuse of women. > **[Sean 'Diddy' Combs jailed by judge after sex trafficking indictment](https://apnews.com/article/sean-diddy-combs-arrested-court-5d570cab4625ca5f9dd16dfd7df4437c)** > > Sean “Diddy” Combs has been ordered held without bail in his federal sex trafficking case. For those not familiar, Combs is a music producer who has been wildly successful for decades. He is a mogul in the world of rap and hip hop. But he’s now looking at years in prison. The details of the case are quite lurid. Combs would have what he called “Freak Offs”, where he would bring women to hotels and have them engage in protracted sexual activity with “male commercial sex workers”, while Combs watched (pleasured himself), and sometimes recorded. The indictment says that, after Freak Offs, Combs and the victims “typically received IV fluids to recover from the physical exertion and drug use.” He and his associates also abused and threatened his victims. Sometimes victims had injuries that took days or weeks to heal! He is said to have threatened people with guns, and among the acts of violence listed are kidnapping and arson. Basically, Diddy was a man with immense wealth came to believe that he was entitled to anything he wanted, including the abuse of others. And for that he’s going to be locked up for a long time. Here’s the PDF of the Indictment. > **[127136161413.pdf](https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2024/09/127136161413.pdf)** ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/2 "2024-09-18T01:32:30Z")
I was wondering why it wasn’t being commented on here yet. I wonder how many well known people visited. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/3 "2024-09-18T01:40:48Z")
Yeah, I was wondering where this would pop up. I sure as hell wasn’t going to start it. The press conference was intense. New York be _PISSED_ at this Fool! One guy at the podium answering questions, and a long row of very angry looking women off to the side. Diddy done Dirty. Diddy goin Prizzy. Edit: I heard his lawyer talking about bond. With the kind of time he’s facing, I bet he skips if set loose. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/4 "2024-09-18T01:45:51Z")
I don’t care to discuss it. I’m tired of seeing these men(if you can call them that) being bigtime jerks. He’ll have a zillion women after him. It’s sickening. Nope. I don’t need to see it, hear about it and definitely not speak of it. This makes mad 😡 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/5 "2024-09-18T02:00:08Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Basically, Diddy was a man with immense wealth came to believe that he was entitled to anything he wanted, including the abuse of others. Hmmm… remind you of anyone? The difference is, this is being dealt with promptly. Why no appeals, delays? Surely this guy can afford the lawyers? He might even pay them. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/6 "2024-09-18T02:09:00Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Basically, Diddy was a man with immense wealth came to believe that he was entitled to anything he wanted, including the abuse of others. And for that he’s going to be locked up for a long time. Good; this has been ‘public knowledge’ for years. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The difference is, this is being dealt with promptly. Why no appeals, delays? Surely this guy can afford the lawyers? He might even pay them. Oh, that is coming, for sure. But unlike, say, Bill Cosby, he doesn’t have NDAs and legion of lawyers and publicists working for decades to constantly cover this up, so the likelihood that he walks away from this is…well, much less. Since this isn’t **The Pit** , I won’t say what I really think should happen to him, but suffice to say that he shouldn’t be given any special treatment or protection in prison. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/7 "2024-09-18T02:10:21Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Basically, Diddy was a man with immense wealth came to believe that he was entitled to anything he wanted, including the abuse of others. And for that he’s going to be locked up for a long time. I hope it’s catching! ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/8 "2024-09-18T02:34:28Z")
Respectfully I understand why someone may want to skip the details, but these men have been getting away with horrendous shit for decades. It needs to stop and we’re barely scratching the surface, but at least it’s something. This country has a shameful habit of ignoring and promoting the exploitation of black girls and women. I think it’s important to have this news front and center. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Good; this has been ‘public knowledge’ for years. I’ve heard terrible things about Diddy for decades, but the Cassie suit was the first time I really thought he might be held accountable: [https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/entertainment/diddy-cassie-lawsuit/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/entertainment/diddy-cassie-lawsuit/index.html) > [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I hope it’s catching! Same here! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/9 "2024-09-18T05:34:24Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I’m surprised that I can’t find a thread on this already. I posted **[this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-sean-diddy-combs-homes-raided-by-feds-25-mar-2024/999371)** back when his house was originally raided several months ago, but then the investigation went quiet and there was no news so it died. Ah well, so it goes. He’s certainly a peach of a man. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/10 "2024-09-18T05:44:24Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Sean Combs, aka Puff Daddy aka P Diddy aka Diddy aka PD aka Love (as he is referenced in court papers) Is it normal for an indictment to continually refer to the defendant by all of their aliases over and over again? Seems like they could just list them off once and then call him “Combs” thereafter, and they do just call him that at some points, but almost every single paragraph has them repeating his litany of nicknames. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/11 "2024-09-18T11:48:41Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I’m tired of seeing these men(if you can call them that) being bigtime jerks. Change “men” to “people” and I’m in total agreement. Not sure why Ghislaine Maxwell and her ilk get a pass. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/12 "2024-09-18T13:30:00Z")
He was denied bail and is currently in custody, although his lawyers are appealing that decision. For SDMB legal types: are you surprised he wasn’t given bail? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/13 "2024-09-18T13:50:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …they could just list them off once and then call him “Combs” thereafter, and they do just call him that at some points, but almost every single paragraph has them repeating his litany of nicknames. You don’t think lawyers have some fun when they write these things? I’m sure it’s meant as a hearty fuck you to a man who thought he was untouchable. > [@zimaane](#): > > are you surprised he wasn’t given bail? The allegations include claims that he tried to intimidate or bribe witnesses. Plus, he’s a substantial flight risk. So, it’s not really that surprising (except insofar as it’s a rich and powerful person being treated like everybody else). Apparently, he offered to put up $50 million worth of real estate as collateral, wear a GPS monitor, and limit himself to Florida, New York, and New Jersey, but the judge said no. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/14 "2024-09-18T14:36:00Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > For SDMB legal types: are you surprised he wasn’t given bail? No. Not really. Very serious accusations, flight risk. I would also not be surprised if bail is set by the District Court Judge. The original bail decision was made by a Magistrate Judge, per common procedure. It makes sense that Magistrate Judge Robyn Tarnofsky would keep him in custody until the assigned Article III judge gets to review it. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/15 "2024-09-18T14:49:22Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Not sure why Ghislaine Maxwell and her ilk get a pass. 1. They don’t. 2. The number of men who are sexual predators compared to the number of women who are. Think about it. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/16 "2024-09-18T15:06:05Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > The number of men who are sexual predators compared to the number of women who are. Think about it. Line up the women who teach school and give extra lessons to the little boys in their care. I honestly don’t know the numbers, but I know both sexes do awful things. When women do them, many people make jokes about it. “Why didn’t I have teachers like that?” ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/17 "2024-09-18T15:09:51Z")
I’d be willing to bet there is at least one female among the folks who assisted puffy with his crimes. Men do terrible things to women. Women do terrible things to women also. As a species, we generally suck. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/18 "2024-09-18T15:12:47Z")
I’m surprised he didn’t get bail, because trump, a convicted felon, is still walking free. How can a convicted felon be free pending sentence, while a merely accused person is held with no bail? THAT bothers me. Not that P Diddy should be free, but that trump shouldn’t. I hate inequity. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/19 "2024-09-18T15:14:47Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > The number of men who are sexual predators compared to the number of women who are. Think about it. Although there are definitely more male sexual predators than female, the number of women who engage in predator sexual behavior and sexual assault, especially including seducing significantly underage victims, grooming, and sexually-oriented shame and humiliation, is substantially underrepresented. Although the splashy headlines of the Catholic Church sexual scandals focused on the male priests, it also came to light the sexual abuse and assault committed by nuns running convents and schools which housed unwed teenage mothers, unwanted children, and Native American/First Nations children being ‘converted’ to Catholicism, including some pretty horrific physical abuse including genital and anal penetration. Regardless, Ghislaine Maxwell has certainly did not “get a pass” and is being held to account for at least some portion of her crimes because the evidence of her complicity is so evident, but in many cases serial women offenders are never held to account because it just isn’t traditionally considered plausible that a female teacher can ‘assault’ a teenage male student, or that female caregivers and family members might sexually molest children in their care. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I’d be willing to bet there is at least one female among the folks who assisted puffy with his crimes. Among the coterie of people who protected Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein and even allegedly groomed victims were several women, in the latter case at least one well known actress and director. Of course, none of these people have faced any legal consequences—and few of them any social or occupational penalties—for facilitating serial rapists. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416/20 "2024-09-18T15:21:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I’m surprised he didn’t get bail, because trump, a convicted felon, is still walking free. How can a convicted felon be free pending sentence, while a merely accused person is held with no bail? > > THAT bothers me. Not that P Diddy should be free, but that trump shouldn’t. I hate inequity. There is certainly a lot of inequality in this world, but in comparing the two cases there’s quite a substantial difference. Trump is indeed a criminal, and stands indicted of many other charges of which he’s not yet been convicted in addition to the ones where he has, but he’s very unlikely to flee the country until and unless he loses the election. Sean Combs is much more likely to flee, especially considering the severity of all the charges. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puff-daddy-arrested-for-sex-trafficking/1007416.md?page=2)