# Pugs are dogs? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 2, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852 "2012-06-02T06:43:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/21 "2012-06-02T15:49:36Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > My wife was cleaning its face folds because it was snotting up our furniture. She found little tiny ants crawling around in there. I have no way to describe my feelings of revulsion on that. :eek: That’s an owner problem, not a dog problem. From what you describe of the snotting and now this, it sounds like the owner is not taking care of that poor pug very well. Any breed with skin folds (not just pugs) can have skin issues, and you need to keep them clean. It’s not very hard - you just need to wipe down their folds with a clean tower or (if you want) a medicated pad, sort of like [Stridex](http://www.stridex.com/) pads but made for dogs. I only have to do it once a week or so in the spring to one of my pugs, and they don’t snot and they certainly don’t have ANTS crawling on them. Please don’t blame the poor dog for that - the owner is very much to blame if the dog’s skin problem has gotten this bad. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/22 "2012-06-02T15:52:08Z")
Jeebus, that IS disgusting. But I agree - your disgust should be directed at the owner, not the poor pug. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/23 "2012-06-02T17:22:31Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Please please please tell me that’s a typo and not some linguistic abomination like “furkids”. If you think puns are linguistic abominations, we have nothing to say to each other. :mad: 😛 ---
**Author:** ![heathen\_earthling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/13edae/32.png) [@heathen\_earthling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heathen_earthling)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/24 "2012-06-02T17:50:28Z")
Why can’t pugs clean their own faces with their tongues? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/25 "2012-06-02T17:55:27Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > Is dumb as a stump and reminds me of this creature more than any dog.[Link](http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1024&bih=631&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsa&tbnid=SSHzahHxlag_EM:&imgrefurl=http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/pygmy-hippo-baby-makes-public-debut-20100805-11jxt.html&docid=oiO1Zg8HkiKLYM&imgurl=http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/05/1752159/hippo6-420x0.jpg&w=420&h=296&ei=trTJT5fOF-e5iQfN9ZzOBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=429&vpy=368&dur=7448&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=170&ty=162&sig=106156930179346939309&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=173&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0,i:165) To call that a dog is an insult to real dogs. As horrid as that thing is, it’s still cuter than a pug. The city of Chicago has passed an ordinance that every jackass must identify himself by owning a pug. On one hand, it’s made it easier for me to know who not to bother talking to, on the other, the high jackass population means I’m forced to look at these failed attempts at dogs far too often. > [@rachelellogram](#): > > I think the adults are creepy looking because their eyes point in opposite directions. But the puppies can be [adograble](http://i.imgur.com/TqMdE.jpg). Ack! Kill it with fire! ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/26 "2012-06-02T18:04:39Z")
My daughter has a[black pug](http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/fairychatmom/?action=view¤t=Cozmo500.jpg)and he’s an absolute hoot! I’m amazed at the amount of energy in such a compact package. He’s a smart little critter, and he does make some bizarro noises, asleep or awake. Of course, he’s easy to love since he just visits us, then goes home. That’s the best kind of dog!! ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/27 "2012-06-02T18:18:33Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Yeah, pugs are gross and severely overbred. Apparently people think they’re cute because it looks like someone bashed their face in with a shovel. It’s so much easier to just buy a healthier breed and bash its face in with a shovel. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/28 "2012-06-02T18:37:03Z")
What’s worse are the abominations’ owners who feel it necessary to dress them up in stupid [costumes.](http://community.statesmanjournal.com/blogs/petadvice/2011/05/04/last-years-pug-parade-winner/) No self-respecting dog would put up with that nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/29 "2012-06-02T18:43:25Z")
> [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > What’s worse are the abominations’ owners who feel it necessary to dress them up in stupid [costumes.](http://community.statesmanjournal.com/blogs/petadvice/2011/05/04/last-years-pug-parade-winner/) No self-respecting dog would put up with that nonsense. A self-respecting dog is a cat. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/30 "2012-06-02T18:49:31Z")
> [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > What’s worse are the abominations’ owners who feel it necessary to dress them up in stupid [costumes.](http://community.statesmanjournal.com/blogs/petadvice/2011/05/04/last-years-pug-parade-winner/) No self-respecting dog would put up with that nonsense. Indeed. When I was young and stupid(er), I’d try to dress my dog up in all kinds of silly adornments, which he would immediately shake or wriggle off. You wanna know why he wouldn’t put up with wearing a tiara or whatever else? Because my dog was a Shepherd/Husky mix, and not a _pug_. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/31 "2012-06-02T19:06:29Z")
> [@heathen\_earthling](#): > > Why can’t pugs clean their own faces with their tongues? Why can’t you? 🙂 They have deep folds. Usually the one right over the nose is the problem. I clean my pug’s face pretty routinely but it depends on the pug – my sister’s pug doesn’t have such deep folds (more prominent nose). It’s necessary care for the breed. Pugs are great dogs. I always thought they looked stupid and wondered why anyone would get one – until my sister got one. They’re incredibly personable dogs, quirky and clownish, and are great companions. Mine doesn’t snore very loudly, and he’s a great little guy. He loves going to the dog park and socializing with other dogs. He’s chummy both with people and dogs. He loves to sit right by somebody and snuggle. I wanted a dog that didn’t need a ton of exercise every day (no fenced yard, and I’m single and working) and who would be happy to be a companion dog. He’s great. Playful and energetic, too, for a dog of his size, and he’s great with little kids or anyone, really. They’re definitely vocal though, they make a lot of funny noises to tell you how they feel. A lot of huffing, grunting, and the like, lots of character. My guy is generally a very happy fellow who’s always keen to go with me anywhere. He can be having the time of his life with the dogs at the park and I’ll just go “Hey Bruce, car ride?” and he’s just as thrilled to leave as he was to arrive. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/32 "2012-06-02T19:10:45Z")
[Here’s the pug in question, by the way.](http://imgur.com/a/7Ew8B) Comparing him to a hippo? Pfeh, I say! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/33 "2012-06-02T19:11:37Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > It’s so much easier to just buy a healthier breed and bash its face in with a shovel. 🆒 **Eve** , you epitomize the principle of living life with style, as opposed to being in style. Never change! ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/34 "2012-06-02T19:36:56Z")
How can you say these guys aren’t cute?!? [At the beach](https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ccfX58PNRjdzANp7A6lH45646vfSAHxx80tfTZn0zGU?feat=directlink) [Lounging on the deck](https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/70wq6v2mYj9AIHarRhbYjoNx1Nc9XocReFoZFCokanM?feat=directlink) [Baby Pic 1](https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5pTCSIH6QcZvbb93RdhmcxirsdFQBI1mhAi_Q2WAlkY?feat=directlink) [Baby Pic 2](https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/T4S7FIRN6NVEkaqEJZfEWQR6h6T3quUIIey8QLQouKo?feat=directlink) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/35 "2012-06-02T20:37:59Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Jeebus, that IS disgusting. But I agree - your disgust should be directed at the owner, not the poor pug. ☹ To be fair, I think some portion of the blame should rest with the ants, too. > [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > What’s worse are the abominations’ owners who feel it necessary to dress them up in stupid [costumes.](http://community.statesmanjournal.com/blogs/petadvice/2011/05/04/last-years-pug-parade-winner/) “Please, kill me now.” ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/36 "2012-06-02T21:06:59Z")
People created the brachycephalic (smashed in face) breeds because of our innate attraction to anything that resembles a human face, especially a baby’s face. There is a long list of ailments and burdens all brachycephalic breeds suffer purely because of their carefully-induced deformities that other breeds with normal canid skulls do not. That’s the way it is. Oh, and cutesy wootsy ilka pilka weentsy wantsy awwww. That would be my opinion, there. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/37 "2012-06-03T02:00:34Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > How can you say these guys aren’t cute?!? I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to add water or feed them after midnight. Some people like clowns, others think they are disturbing. These things are disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/38 "2012-06-03T02:06:06Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > Why can’t you? 🙂 Heh. You assume I can’t. We all know why Shannon Tweed lives with Gene Simmons (other than he is rich, too). ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/39 "2012-06-03T02:26:43Z")
It’s a little known fact that pugs can be extremely dangerous in packs. One of my friends has like 5 of them. I fell asleep on her couch for a second and when I woke up they had pinned me Gulliver’s Travels style. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852/40 "2012-06-03T02:47:15Z")
For those of you who don’t like pugs, perhaps you’d prefer the Hug - a husky-pug mix. > **[Hug Dog Breed Information and Pictures](https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/h/hug.htm)** > > The Hug is not a purebred dog. It is a cross between the Siberian Husky and the Pug. Yes, it’s real. The link even includes a photo. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pugs-are-dogs/623852.md?page=3)