# Pulling of "Designing a test for Psychic Urination" in Great Debates **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319 "2008-01-12T19:24:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/41 "2008-01-13T20:55:49Z")
[QUOTE=richnz] [\ But I am sick of getting warnings from the likes of you, which I suspect, has more to do with the lack of respect I have shown to the moderators than anything else. \ [/QUOTE] Actually, if you do it within the rules, you can show any lack of respect you want to the moderators here. The administrators, too. People can and do question them frequently, at great length and with great enthusiasm. ETA: I’m not advocating disrespecting the Powers That Be here - just saying that you can do it, if you do it right. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/42 "2008-01-13T21:07:04Z")
[QUOTE=richnz] 2. People are pretty rude here, lack a sense of humour and have hugely inflated ego’s about themselves. [/QUOTE] Oh, we have a sense of humor. It’s just at your expense. Your major mistake was diving right into the “psychic phenomena” debate without checking the lay of the land first. Quite a few people here pay lip service to the [JREF](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JREF) – they are a small but _extremely_ vocal minority, and frankly they’re feeling a bit discombobulated right now thanks to Randi’s decision to end his $1M contest. So it’s best to give them a wide berth unless you LIKE being dogpiled on. You gotta know when to pick your battles, son. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/43 "2008-01-13T21:12:31Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Your major mistake was diving right into the “psychic phenomena” debate without checking the lay of the land first. Quite a few people here pay lip service to the [JREF](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JREF) – they are a small but _extremely_ vocal minority, and frankly they’re feeling a bit discombobulated right now thanks to Randi’s decision to end his $1M contest. [/QUOTE] For exceedingly arcane definitions of “small” and “lip service,” perhaps. As to feeling discombobulated, you know what opinions are like, right? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/44 "2008-01-13T21:19:20Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] FOBTSP, troll. [/QUOTE] TLDR. Regards, Shodan 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/45 "2008-01-13T23:32:20Z")
[QUOTE=richnz] **Heffalump** - my apologies for being rude. [/quote] No worries. It was fun while it lasted. 😉 > [@richnz](#): > > I do not need to apologise to tomndebb? or whatever, he is rude enough as it is - thus accounting for his obvious unpopularity here. **tomndebb** is one of the most popular people here. But you wouldn’t know that since you just got here. That other person that agreed with you in the thread is new also. > [@richnz](#): > > YAAAAY I won! My thread is back! go have a look - can I charge for pay per view here? (jus kidding) Just checked it. It’s as dead as a doornail. As you noted here, there’s no debate there. Maybe **tomndebb** should have let it die as it was. . . would have been faster. > [@richnz](#): > > I dont intend to hang around long. I have made my point. I had a strong feeling you wouldn’t be around for long. I must be psychic! Does anyone feel like urinating? 😛 > [@richnz](#): > > 1. People are pretty rude here, lack a sense of humour and have hugely inflated ego’s about themselves. Then you should stay. You’d fit right in. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/46 "2008-01-14T00:06:36Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] TLDR. Regards, Shodan 😃 [/QUOTE] By drowning in the flood of your own uncontrollable urine. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/47 "2008-01-14T00:09:32Z")
I, too, have had threads closed after a snotty remark by tomndebb, who thinks that his mod status has somehow depleted his shit of stink and given him a special spidey sense for detecting the value of conversation among – cough – paying customers. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/48 "2008-01-14T01:58:17Z")
**Shodan** , **Bryan Ekers** , given that I bitched at **Q.E.D.** for his initial “Tldr” post, it seems only reasonable to ask that others not follow up with similar posts. Please refrain, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/49 "2008-01-14T02:03:44Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] I, too, have had threads closed after a snotty remark by tomndebb, who thinks that his mod status has somehow depleted his shit of stink and given him a special spidey sense for detecting the value of conversation among – cough – paying customers. [/QUOTE] An interesting observation, given that only two threads that you started on the SDMB have been closed, one at your request, neither in **Great Debates** , and neither by me. I suppose that if one wishes to throw stones, it is easier when one creates the straw man at which to throw them. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/50 "2008-01-14T02:44:33Z")
Well, I’ve definitely had conversations I was embroiled in closed by you, with a kind of snotty, self-righteous remark to the effect that we were stinkin’ up the place, and, while were clearing continuing the discussion and had not violated any rules, apparently hadn’t measured up to whatever high standard you were-- I don’t know, entitled to? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/51 "2008-01-14T02:51:20Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] [Incorrect](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=process&showposts=0&starteronly=1&exactname=1&searchuser=cricetus) , but thanks for playing. [/QUOTE] Which part was incorrect, then? I count exactly two closed threads started by you out of a total of 65; one closed by **Skip Magic** and the other by **TVeblen**. One was in Cafe Society, the other in the BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/52 "2008-01-14T02:53:09Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] Well, I’ve definitely had conversations I was embroiled in closed by you, with a kind of snotty, self-righteous remark to the effect that we were stinkin’ up the place, and, while were clearing continuing the discussion and had not violated any rules, apparently hadn’t measured up to whatever high standard you were-- I don’t know, entitled to? [/QUOTE] That’s funny-I’ve only found two threads of yours that have been closed-_Michigan lost to WHO?_, from Cafe Society, and _Mama Tiger to dead in NO: Good Riddance!_, from The BBQ Pit. Neither one closed by **tomndebb**. What threads are _you_ talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/53 "2008-01-14T02:55:37Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] Well, I’ve definitely had conversations I was embroiled in closed by you, with a kind of snotty, self-righteous remark to the effect that we were stinkin’ up the place, and, while were clearing continuing the discussion and had not violated any rules, apparently hadn’t measured up to whatever high standard you were-- I don’t know, entitled to? [/QUOTE] Ah, I see. Threads you were “embroiled in”, not threads you started. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/54 "2008-01-14T02:58:05Z")
Look, I’ve definitely been involved in threads that Tom shut down with a smug little remark. Maybe I didn’t starts the threads. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/55 "2008-01-14T02:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Which part was incorrect, then? I count exactly two closed threads started by you out of a total of 65; one closed by **Skip Magic** and the other by **TVeblen**. One was in Cafe Society, the other in the BBQ Pit. [/QUOTE] I misread his post and edited mine. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/56 "2008-01-14T03:07:24Z")
I see the thread is reopened. I don’t know if it’ll ever be the “Great Debate” Tom hopes to see, but since he did reopen it, I don’t see any reason to continue poking a stick at him. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/57 "2008-01-14T03:16:36Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] I see the thread is reopened. I don’t know if it’ll ever be the “Great Debate” Tom hopes to see, but since he did reopen it, I don’t see any reason to continue poking a stick at him. [/QUOTE] 1. Considering where it went, it looks as if he was right to close it the first time. 2. I’m having a bit of trouble finding all those threads you were “embroiled” in that **tomndebb** closed. Perhaps you can help us out there. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/58 "2008-01-14T03:19:15Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] I see the thread is reopened. I don’t know if it’ll ever be the “Great Debate” Tom hopes to see, but since he did reopen it, I don’t see any reason to continue poking a stick at him. [/QUOTE] FYI, the thread was reopened _last night_. ---
**Author:** ![richnz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de0a6/32.png) [@richnz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/richnz)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/59 "2008-01-14T07:51:26Z")
\*\*Hello, hello, hello – you guys still around? \*\* **Heffalump** , **Czarcasm** even **tomndebb** – how nice to see you guys. Warms the cockles of my heart. Now, now Heffalump – restrain yourself – no “witty comments” please. Now lets see what do we have here… [QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo] … **tomndebb** is one of the most popular people here. [/QUOTE] Ah – how did I know you would say that? I must be psychic too you reckon? You were **tomndebb** ’s able lieutenant in his absence, till he arrived on the scene and messed things up. I think you should be the moderator, instead of him, you’re just as nasty and do a better job than him in standing firm, as heffalumps do. Mind you he did the quid pro quo thing with you, by handing me a warning on my lapse with the quote thing. Thereby getting back at me for those things I wrote to him - how clever. He was chastising me about you - not him. What I actually wanted to say was: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, (no inverted comma’s) Shush Heffalump. Finger on your lips and I’ll speak to you in 10 years. Sorry about that inverted comma’s thing. A slip- of the fingers. But you forgive me dont you? Whats a couple of inverted commas between friends? Q- What comes out of an Elephants backside? A- Heff of a lumps [QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo] Just checked it. It’s as dead as a doornail. As you noted here, there’s no debate there. Maybe **tomndebb** should have let it die as it was. . . would have been faster. [/QUOTE] Oh I couldn’t agree with you more, but only if he closes **Czarcasm** ’s post too. But maybe that is more than his jurisdiction would allow him? Seeing as **Czarcasm** is also a moderator. And then again that was probably why tomndebb so hurriedly shut down my thread – the quid pro quo stuff you know. But its not quite dead as yet. **Czarcasm** is propping it up manfully. Maybe you could also go and lend him a helping hand? No? Well, never mind, it was just a suggestion. In fact **Czarcasm** has so much time on his hands, he is even coming here to prop up this thread. Jolly kind of him don’t you think? **Featherlou** - many thanks for your comments. Youre very nice. You havent attacked me for no rhyme or reason. I’m betting youre a lady. The males over here, some of them, could learn some manners from you. **KGS** , **Contrapuntal** - thanks and all the others I may not have mentioned - who wernt nasty to me. **Giraffe** - you were very fair in your moderation - thanks. **Bryan Ekers** - you’re a coward. You hide behind acronyms in your abuse to me (and now you will come out with with some “witty” explanation of what it stands for - save it). Why dont you go to **Czarcasm** ’s thread and help him tackle the dowsers of the world? Or is one line abuse all youre capable of? **fluiddruid** - you came out of the woodwork to hand me a warning. What are the rules on abuse? **tomndebb** you showed me the rule book - does that apply only selectively? Your pals are exempt are they? I thought as much. Ah well ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319/60 "2008-01-14T12:57:04Z")
[QUOTE=richnz] Mind you he did the quid pro quo thing with you, by handing me a warning on my lapse with the quote thing. Thereby getting back at me for those things I wrote to him - how clever. He was chastising me about you - not him. [/quote] No. You violated an explicit rule and [I pointed out the rule](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9363263&postcount=34). You were given no Warning and I was hardly “getting back” at you by doing nothing more than pointing out that rule. [QUOTE=richnz] Oh I couldn’t agree with you more, but only if he closes **Czarcasm** ’s post too. But maybe that is more than his jurisdiction would allow him? Seeing as **Czarcasm** is also a moderator. And then again that was probably why tomndebb so hurriedly shut down my thread – the quid pro quo stuff you know. [/quote] Why should I close either thread (other than that both your first posting along with your comments in this thread appear to indicate that you are merely trolling)? There is a significant difference between the two threads: dowsing is a phenomenon for which many people make frequent claims that it is an actual paranormal power. The intent of that thread was to find a once-for-all-time test that would either allow all dowsers to support their claims or be compelled to withdraw their claims. Your thread was about a single misguided lady who made an odd claim that was actually tested and was disproven. No further claimants have come forward (unless you are claiming that your posts to this board have been the result of her exercising her powers over you?). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulling-of-designing-a-test-for-psychic-urination-in-great-debates/433319.md?page=4)