# Pulp fiction question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 27, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781 "2009-09-27T21:52:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/21 "2009-09-28T14:51:49Z")
Another nice tidbit that isn’t explicitly stated in the movie: Remember when Vincent was bitching to Eric Stoltz about someone keying his car? The keying was done by Butch after their confrontation in the bar. I think I heard this on the DVD commentary from the mouth of The Man himself…TRM ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/22 "2009-09-28T18:49:38Z")
How sure are you that you heard that from The Man himself? We’ve been over that detail before and a lot of people think Butch isn’t a pussy who would key a car. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/23 "2009-09-28T23:03:13Z")
Man, I don’t _even_ have an opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/24 "2009-09-28T23:32:21Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > That’s missing the point. And by the same token, if Vincent had, he wouldn’t have been there either. I don’t know, Marcellus is mafia after all. He and Jules seemed to have a friendship that went beyond a mere boss & henchman relationship. Jules could probably walk away from the mob without any repercussions, I’m not sure Vincent would have had the same luxury. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/25 "2009-09-28T23:42:19Z")
Inspired by his earlier dealings with Jimmy, he decided to go into business storing dead n- Nope, can’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/26 "2009-09-28T23:56:50Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > I don’t know, Marcellus is mafia after all. He and Jules seemed to have a friendship that went beyond a mere boss & henchman relationship. Jules could probably walk away from the mob without any repercussions, I’m not sure Vincent would have had the same luxury. Marcellus Wallace don’t look Italian to me? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/27 "2009-09-29T00:17:01Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > Marcellus Wallace don’t look Italian to me? That’s not the question! The question is “does he look like a bitch?”. Yeah yeah, I know it’s been quoted here already. ---
**Author:** ![TJVM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b38774/32.png) [@TJVM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TJVM)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/28 "2009-09-29T00:27:07Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > IT WAS A FUCKING MIRACLE AND I WANT YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT! > > (sorry, had to!) “What happened here was a miracle, and I want you to fucking acknowledge it!” (Sorry, had to make the correction. The dialogue in that movie is so well done.) ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/29 "2009-09-29T02:44:57Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > Marcellus Wallace don’t look Italian to me? Sorry. Mafia has become a generic name for organized crime over here. Anyways, usually you can’t quit organized crime all willy nilly. At least in fiction you can’t. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/30 "2009-09-29T06:04:06Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > That’s not the question! The question is “does he look like a bitch?”. Yeah yeah, I know it’s been quoted here already. What??? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/31 "2009-09-29T06:10:15Z")
[English mother fucker, do you speak it?!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-tbpwBuat8) ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/32 "2009-09-29T13:01:50Z")
> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#): > > Not much to add, except something I read here on the Dope a few years ago that scratched a plot itch I had: After Butch gets his watch back, he just randomly runs across Marcellus walking down the street carrying coffee and doughnuts. It seemed a little too convenient, until someone smarter than me pointed out that with Jules now walking the Earth, Marcellus chose to accompany Vincent to Butch’s apartment for the stake out. Butch just happened to walk into his apartment while Marcellus was out for doughnuts and was able to get the drop on Vincent. > > Vincent didn’t open the bathroom door when he heard Butch enter the apartment and cook the Pop Tart, because he thought Butch was Marcellus. I love this movie. Yeah, I thought it was contrived too. But that’s a good point. Of course Butch encountered Marcellus outside his apartment. Marcellus was _looking for him_. And Jules wandered the earth learning the ways of The Force. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/33 "2009-09-29T13:35:02Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > What??? Say “What” again! C’mon, say “What” again! I dare ya, I double dare ya motherfucker, say “What” one more goddamn time! ---
**Author:** ![Shampanerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Shampanerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shampanerd)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/34 "2017-10-16T00:23:45Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > But if Jules had not redeemed himself, he would probably been with Vincent on the Butch stakeout. Vincent died because Butch got the drop on him. That wouldn’t have happened if Jules had been there. Wow that is true, that Jules would have been with Vincent at Butchs house and keeping a lookout. But why Vincent leaves a machine gun out in the kitchen is stupid anyway. Is he nuts??? He didnt learn after he left heroin in his coat pocket? Haha ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/35 "2017-10-16T00:39:53Z")
> [@Shampanerd](#): > > Wow that is true, that Jules would have been with Vincent at Butchs house and keeping a lookout. But why Vincent leaves a machine gun out in the kitchen is stupid anyway. Is he nuts??? He didnt learn after he left heroin in his coat pocket? Haha I’m not sure that was Vincent’s. Isn’t the idea that – suddenly minus Jules – Marcellus is, personally, teaming up with Vincent to rummage through everything at Butch’s place in hopes of finding a clue as to where he went? That would explain why Marcellus is in the vicinity, acting like he’s heading back there with coffee and donuts or whatever; so maybe figure that Marcellus left _his_ big gun back at Butch’s place when he eventually stepped out to do that, only carrying a smaller backup weapon that can be discreetly holstered. And so, if you like, figure Vince has his own weapons on his person when he uses the bathroom during that brief window of opportunity – which ends badly for him, but, hey, it’s not his place to handle his employer’s [del]wife[/del] weapon. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/36 "2017-10-16T00:46:49Z")
I figure the gun in the kitchen was totally Vincent’s. It fits in with Vincent’s consistent incompetence throughout the entire picture. ---
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/37 "2017-10-16T01:26:55Z")
Maybe Vincent left his gun on the counter and hit the can while Marcellus was still there, then Marcellus says he’s going for coffee. There you have it, gun on counter, Vincent on can, Marcellus in street.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/38 "2017-10-16T02:24:29Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And so, if you like, figure Vince has his own weapons on his person when he uses the bathroom during that brief window of opportunity – which ends badly for him, but, hey, it’s not his place to handle his employer’s [del]wife[/del] weapon. Vincent goes to the bathroom three times in that movie, and every time he does something really bad happens. I have a question about Vincent. He’s in a black suit at the beginning which gets ruined. He’s in one (although the collar is different) a day or two later when he goes out with Mia. And I think he’s in one at the fight when he sees Mia again, and the next day when he gets shot at Butch’s apartment. How many black suits does he own? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/39 "2017-10-16T03:00:38Z")
In the sequel, Jules puts on a tartan kilt, flies to England and sells fake party drugs. The part about walking the earth was but a brief interlude between his criminal enterprises. For me, the loose end was Mia. She just kind of disappeared from the story. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781/40 "2017-10-16T03:40:05Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > For me, the loose end was Mia. She just kind of disappeared from the story. She shows up after Butch’s fight when Marcellus goes to inspect the dead boxer. Vincent asks how she’s doing, and Mia says, “I never thanked you for dinner.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pulp-fiction-question/511781.md?page=3)