# Punk Died Today, Didja Notice? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2002, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355 "2002-05-29T15:35:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/1 "2002-05-29T15:35:10Z")
Here it is, short and sweet: Punk is now officially dead, because I decide these things for the rest of the world. There have been many false alarms and folks crying wolf but punk survived them all, until this: Adidas Climacool running shoes commercial uses The Stranglers tune “Peaches”. No More Heroes indeed. Fuck the pain away, fuck the pain away… ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/2 "2002-05-29T15:41:47Z")
What, **again**? _yawn_ ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/3 "2002-05-29T15:49:16Z")
I can never remember if punk or “real rock” has died more often. ---
**Author:** ![pezpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pezpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pezpunk)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/4 "2002-05-29T15:59:06Z")
They **are** cool shoes though. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/5 "2002-05-29T16:39:10Z")
_ **YAWN** _ Boring. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/6 "2002-05-29T16:42:43Z")
Rock has been dead since…well, since Hair bands took over in the 80’s. Rock is still dead, though some refuse to let it go(evidence of mulletry, hair feathering, and Aerosmith’s new music say it’s so). Punk has been dead for quite some time, though since I find it a particularly annoying genre/following, I haven’t had time to check the epitaph. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Journeyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@Journeyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Journeyman)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/7 "2002-05-29T17:08:58Z")
It’s not dead, it just smells funny. ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/8 "2002-05-29T17:41:07Z")
Whuddya mean, punk’s dead? Why just this past weekend the Dead Kennedys were in town. And while its true that Klaus Fluoride isn’t as good as he used to be, and they replaced Jello with [some guy who used to star in sitcoms](http://www.deadkennedys.com/members.htm#bc), and who put out an album with Mickey Dolenz and Bill Bixby, and appeared on _Weakest Link_, and… what was I saying? Punk isn’t dead? Where did I get THAT from? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/9 "2002-05-29T19:03:25Z")
Am I the only person on the planet who doesn’t give a shit when popular music is used in TV commercials? All these pop songs were written by professional musicians, “professional” meaning they expected to get money for writing and/or performing their material. They wrote these songs hoping to sell albums, concert tickets, t-shirts, etc. Why not throw sneakers into the mix? And hey, if you _like_ the song, why are you bitching about being able to hear it more often? And finally, who the fuck listens to commercials in the first place? That’s why they invented the “mute” button. I give this rant a -5.6. ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/10 "2002-05-29T19:15:43Z")
[beatles]You say you want a revolution, We-ell, you know … We all want to sell some shoes.[/beatles] ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/11 "2002-05-29T19:35:23Z")
No. NOOOO. ::does CPR:: ::Punk gets up, starts playing “American Jesus”:: Ah. I guess that’s better. See, it’s not dead yet :D. ---
**Author:** ![pbrtallboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f475e1/32.png) [@pbrtallboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbrtallboy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/12 "2002-05-29T22:44:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by eunoia \* > \*\* > > Fuck the pain away, fuck the pain away… \*\* Is that a Teaches of Peaches reference? There’s only one Peach…with a hole in the middle! ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/13 "2002-05-30T00:01:01Z")
The Stranglers formed in 1974. That means that punk can apparently be killed by a bunch of 40- somethings (at least!) that probably need some money to pay for the lease on their new Saturn. Sure. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/14 "2002-05-30T01:38:52Z")
Look, they are being sucessful. Don’t begrudge 'em of making money. Have you noticed that a lot of punk music is being used in commercials now? Buzzcocks for one. Let 'em have their sucess. ---
**Author:** ![Lockfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@Lockfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockfist)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/15 "2002-05-30T05:05:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by eunoia \* > \*\*Here it is, short and sweet: > > Punk is now officially dead, because I decide these things for the rest of the world. There have been many false alarms and folks crying wolf but punk survived them all, until this: > > Adidas Climacool running shoes commercial uses The Stranglers tune “Peaches”. > > No More Heroes indeed. > > Fuck the pain away, fuck the pain away… \*\* Well **eunoia** , this story is not quite punk (grindcore actually) but its along the same lines, and it should lift your spirits ! **Napalm Death** lead singer, _Mark “Barney” Greenway_ turned down an offer to provide the vocals for [this](http://www.canneslions.com/Html/CLCreativeShowcase/DrogaShowcase/reebok_detail.shtml#) award-winning **Reebok** commercial. It features a man running from a giant “Belly” which is singing in a gruff and throaty voice “_Bellys goona get cha…_” Barney had this to say (from the [www.enemyofthemusicbusiness.com](http://www.enemyofthemusicbusiness.com)) > [@](#): > > Obviously, though, I wouldn’t be naive enough to suggest that we can escape all traces of corporate products; we’re surrounded by them everywhere every day. Still, I do what I can. Yeah, I drive a Vauxhall motor car (General Motors, I believe), but i wouldn’t piss on McDonalds if it was on fire. I try. Just recently, i was asked to sing a bit over a **Reebok** advert, but didn’t do it because it didn’t feel right. Ok, so i have a couple of Reebok T-shirts, but it doesn’t mean that I’m gonna get involved in a bloody company advert. > > After all, corporations are happy to let people die for just a few dollars more. …if anything I would think the fact that **Jello** got [beat-up](http://www.disinfo.com/pages/dossier/id198/pg1/) at a punk show for being a “sell-out” would tell you that **Punk is ALIVE!**. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/16 "2002-05-30T12:12:06Z")
C’mon! With Blink 182 keepin it real, punk will never die! Oi! ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/17 "2002-05-30T13:36:33Z")
Fuck the begrudgers. If a Buzzcocks song on a Heinken Ad or Stranglers tunes used to sell sneakers, great. If the Artists are comfortable with their music being used, its their choice. Plus, a whole load of kids are hearing their music for the first time and wanting to hear more. If you dont want to “sell out” dont perform your music at all. Write punk songs and shout them to yourself in your bedroom, because the first cent you make from your talent you have “Sold Out”. Go, enjoy, make some money to survive. Music is the food of the soul. share it out with everyone. But don’t begrudge people for being successful, or beat someone up for “selling out”. ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/18 "2002-05-30T18:05:58Z")
I would like to go on record as predicting that within our lifetimes “Suck My Ass It Smells” by GG Allin And The Murder Junkies will be used in a toilet paper commercial. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/19 "2002-05-30T21:32:28Z")
Well, let’s see… who’s had a #1 single more recently, Yes or the Ramones? (Hint: it starts with a Y) Who’s had a top ten single more recently, the Moody Blues or the Clash? (Hint: their initials are M.B.) I use these examples, because even when it became clear that punk was an unimportant genre that wasn’t going anywhere, its defenders clung to one slender defense of the genre: “at least punk put an end to pompous, pretentious art-rock.” Well… no, actually, it didn’t. Long after punk started making headlines, Yes, the Moody Blues, Genesis, and other bands of their ilk continued to sell millions of records and fill major arenas. So, not only was punk a failure, it was a COMPLETE failure. I say punk officially died when Asia had the #1 album of 1982. ---
**Author:** ![dead0man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@dead0man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dead0man)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355/20 "2002-05-30T23:28:00Z")
So every genre of music that doesn’t get a number 1 album regulerly is dead? Jazz? dead. Classical? dead. Blues? dead. Glam Rock? dead. Punk? dead. Just because you dont see it on MTV doesnt mean its dead. Yes Kid Rock and the Eagles sell more tickets in Omaha than NOFX does. Sure there will be more people at the Glam Rock reunion than there will be at Vans(HA!!!) Warped Tour. Your punk maybe dead, but all punk aint dead. dead0man [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/punk-died-today-didja-notice/111355.md?page=2)