# Puppy-pitching Bosnia girl found **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 27, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235 "2010-09-27T16:15:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/1 "2010-09-27T16:15:19Z")
Possibly OFN, but here’s the link anyway: [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/09/03/2010-09-03\_puppy\_drowning\_girl\_found\_by\_bosnian\_police\_after\_disturbing\_video\_released\_.html?obref=obinsite](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/09/03/2010-09-03_puppy_drowning_girl_found_by_bosnian_police_after_disturbing_video_released_.html?obref=obinsite) I know this story was posted on the boards several weeks ago. Apparently the red-hooded wench has been uncovered. Hurray! ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/2 "2010-09-27T16:50:26Z")
The [cited Telegraph story](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bosnia/7979521/Bosnian-police-find-woman-who-threw-puppies-into-river.html) says that she (or presumably her guardian as she is underage) can receive up to €5,000 in fines for animal cruelty. So for six dogs, up to €30,000 in total. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/3 "2010-09-27T18:12:06Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > The [cited Telegraph story](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bosnia/7979521/Bosnian-police-find-woman-who-threw-puppies-into-river.html) says that she (or presumably her guardian as she is underage) can receive up to €5,000 in fines for animal cruelty. So for six dogs, up to €30,000 in total. _blinks_ That’s…a LOT of money. My yearly salary when I lived in Bulgaria (which I think is slightly wealthier than Bosnia, although I think they’re pretty similar, economically) was about €2500. I would be shocked if they enforced this. Hell, I would be shocked if they did anything at all. Animals are not highly thought of in the Balkans. My host family’s dog was stabbed to death in the town square. I was shocked. They were like “meh, it’s sad, but it happens”. ---
**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/4 "2010-09-27T20:23:52Z")
What a waste of time and effort. Says a lot about the people who care about this of all things, when there are a million atrocities being committed every day. A (reasonable) fine would be a good consequence. The bad thing here was the decision to make a video and put it online. I hope her life isn’t ruined forever because of this somewhat cold-hearted (to the strange people who regard unwanted puppies with the same warm fuzzy feelings they have for human infants), but morally inconsequential act. I can’t believe the extent which this kid has been demonized. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/5 "2010-09-27T20:36:21Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > What a waste of time and effort. Says a lot about the people who care about this of all things, when there are a million atrocities being committed every day. Oh good, here we go with the “How can you care about **this** , when **that** is going on somewhere else?” That’s new and refreshing. Newsflash: Some of us can care about both things. Go ahead, start a thread about babies being thrown into a pottery kiln, see what happens. I’ll totally get all riled up. And shit. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/6 "2010-09-27T20:57:32Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Hell, I would be shocked if they did anything at all. Animals are not highly thought of in the Balkans. My host family’s dog was stabbed to death in the town square. I was shocked. They were like “meh, it’s sad, but it happens”. Think that’s bad? A friend of mine from the Philippines went back to Manila to get married. When he got back he was telling me about the ceremony, which description culminated in him saying “and then we ate the family dog”. I naturally expressed horror, to which he replied, in a mystified tone of voice: “but it’s a great honor for the dog!” ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/7 "2010-09-27T21:52:14Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > What a waste of time and effort. Says a lot about the people who care about this of all things, when there are a million atrocities being committed every day. > > A (reasonable) fine would be a good consequence. The bad thing here was the decision to make a video and put it online. I hope her life isn’t ruined forever because of this somewhat cold-hearted (to the strange people who regard unwanted puppies with the same warm fuzzy feelings they have for human infants), but morally inconsequential act. I can’t believe the extent which this kid has been demonized. Morally inconsequential act? I’d say this kind of casual cruelty is definitely morally consequential. What kind of person does such a thing? Too much trouble to take them to a pound for potential adoption or putting signs up for free dogs? Hell, if you must have them dead why a toss into a cold river to drown? There are more humane ways to do it if it must be done. The girl deserves all the opprobrium the world can throw her way. Yeah there are a million other atrocities and they all revolting. Just because you find one worse than another doesn’t make the “lesser” one ok and to be ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/8 "2010-09-27T23:32:19Z")
Why in the world would they film that? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/9 "2010-09-27T23:45:09Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > What a waste of time and effort. Says a lot about the people who care about this of all things, when there are a million atrocities being committed every day. Why are you posting from a computer when people are homeless in your area? Sell all you have and give it all away! ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/10 "2010-09-28T01:11:34Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > What a waste of time and effort. Says a lot about the people who care about this of all things, when there are a million atrocities being committed every day. > > A (reasonable) fine would be a good consequence. The bad thing here was the decision to make a video and put it online. I hope her life isn’t ruined forever because of this somewhat cold-hearted (to the strange people who regard unwanted puppies with the same warm fuzzy feelings they have for human infants), but morally inconsequential act. I can’t believe the extent which this kid has been demonized. Ha! This old argument? 🙂 One of the places I exercised my right to free speech was next to a wine & beer store, and every time we were there, people came out of the store with armloads of wine and cases or kegs of beer and stood there berating us for not spending all our time and money helping children. “Oh, the beer is for the children, I take it?” ---
**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/11 "2010-09-28T02:44:23Z")
It’s just that the outcry about this makes about as much sense to me as people starting a manhunt for the farmer who gassed 60 rats to death in his barn. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/12 "2010-09-28T02:57:59Z")
Did he film it, seem happy to do it, and post it on the WWW for all to see? Sure this shit happens all the time. Proudly filming and posting it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/13 "2010-09-28T03:01:59Z")
I suggest you search ‘killing rats’ on youtube. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/14 "2010-09-28T03:29:48Z")
Ah. Further confirmation why I don’t watch any animal related stuff on that there website. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/15 "2010-09-28T10:24:59Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > It’s just that the outcry about this makes about as much sense to me as people starting a manhunt for the farmer who gassed 60 rats to death in his barn. I’m sure someone’s on it. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/16 "2010-09-28T11:27:09Z")
Sorry for the lack of warning in the OP. Figured most people knew about this by now. There’s a decent disclaimer about the content of the video on the page itself (as if you couldn’t gather the content from the descrption). Either way, video is not for dog-lovers (or anyone that would be disturbed by it, quite frankly). ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/17 "2010-09-28T14:13:04Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > It’s just that the outcry about this makes about as much sense to me as people starting a manhunt for the farmer who gassed 60 rats to death in his barn. You see no difference in those two scenarios at all? A farmer eliminating rats in his barn (which is effectively his workplace) versus gleefully chucking puppies into a river? Here’s a clue (in case you’re not being completely disingenuous): Enjoying killing puppies = bad. Elimination of pests = necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/18 "2010-09-28T14:23:34Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > > [@Kyla](#): > > > > Hell, I would be shocked if they did anything at all. Animals are not highly thought of in the Balkans. My host family’s dog was stabbed to death in the town square. I was shocked. They were like “meh, it’s sad, but it happens”. > > Think that’s bad? A friend of mine from the Philippines went back to Manila to get married. When he got back he was telling me about the ceremony, which description culminated in him saying “and then we ate the family dog”. > > I naturally expressed horror, to which he replied, in a mystified tone of voice: “but it’s a great honor for the dog!” Yes, I’m sure the dog cares a lot about honor. I was in the Philippines earlier this year. After seeing balut, I am pretty sure they’ll eat anything there. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/19 "2010-09-28T14:26:31Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > It’s just that the outcry about this makes about as much sense to me as people starting a manhunt for the farmer who gassed 60 rats to death in his barn. Ah, but that’s not what you _said_. What you _said_ is the classic “think of the children!” we have made fun of on this board so often. And then you made the somewhat strange insinuation that the known overpopulation of unwanted puppies is somehow different from the known overpopulation of unwanted children. ---
**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235/20 "2010-09-28T15:07:43Z")
Huh? Unwanted puppies and unwanted children aren’t different in every way to you? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/puppy-pitching-bosnia-girl-found/555235.md?page=2)