# Pure, unadulterated stupid.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 22, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030 "2018-03-22T16:59:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/41 "2018-03-24T01:57:43Z")

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It was at least 15 years ago or more, and I think it may be a familiar story for those who keep track of such things, but back then a guy I knew was earnestly explaining that all modern languages were secretly transcribed (not descended from or influenced by, but transcribed from - perhaps it was by initialisms somehow?) - from Basque.

He had a degree in computer science and worked for a big corporation at the time.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/42 "2018-03-24T02:22:45Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> This isn’t stupid, but just odd (and something I posted about before):  
> A little over a decade ago, I knew a Chinese man who was posting on an Internet message board, and exulting over the fact that China was making significant progress in producing its own stealth jet fighters. Now, given that he was a military enthusiast, this was nothing surprising, until he explained his thought process further: He felt that Western women would now be more interested in dating Chinese men, because surely such women were following global aerospace and military developments of this sort, and now that China was making its own stealth fighters, they would be more attracted to Chinese men as a result. :dubious:

I remember that story like it was yesterday! I cracked up at that, in fact I’ve told it to a couple of poker and book groups’ worth of friends.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/43 "2018-03-24T03:13:32Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> A lunkhead on the news last night, re the grass roots attempt in Oregon to ban the sale of military style weapons and registration of same: “The 2nd amendment doesn’t say that these guns are for hunting; they’re in case the government needs to be overthrown because. . .stuff.” :smack:

The lunkhead was right. Read the Preamble to the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment (and the other nine) were added later to the Constitution “in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers”.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/44 "2018-03-24T03:36:40Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> A local preacher here in my home city had a radio program for a while. He insisted that since our ZIP codes started with 666 that meant we were doomed. And the motto of the city “The Golden City” was a reference to evil Babylon in the book of Revelations. The local university has a mascot called the Ichabod, and since the means "God’s glory has departed(according to the OT) it’s another sign we are doomed. The dude is several years dead, but his cult carries on, although not quite as active. He was a very hateful man, and boy did he have a potty mouth on him.

If the city is what I think it is, Ichabod Washburn was actually a devout Christian.

> **[Ichabod Washburn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichabod_Washburn)**
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> Ichabod Washburn (1798–1868) was an American Congregational deacon and industrialist from Worcester County, Massachusetts. His financial endowments led to the naming of Washburn College, now Washburn University in Topeka, Kansas and the foundation of Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Worcester, Massachusetts.
> Washburn became an apprentice in a Leicester, Massachusetts blacksmith shop at the age of sixteen. He attended Leicester Academy with his distant relative Emory Washburn (later Governor of...

Over the years, I worked with pharmacists who did not know that:

- Lesbians menstruate
- Jehovah’s Witnesses interpret the Bible in such a way that blood transfusions are prohibited
- Women generally do not produce breast milk until after they have given birth  
I’m sure I could think of some others.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/45 "2018-03-24T03:38:10Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Back in the late 1990s/early 2000s I heard a local radio preacher insisting that (nearby city)'s instillation of traffic cameras was to keep track of which people had bibles on the dashes of their cars so that they could be rounded up and put in concentration camps.

I would imagine that very few people do that. Not many people have a Mary statue there, either, in part because they can be dangerous in an accident.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/46 "2018-03-24T04:50:59Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> The lunkhead was right. Read the Preamble to the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment (and the other nine) were added later to the Constitution “in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers”.

[Not quite](http://billofrightsinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/AP_Documents_BillofRights.jpg). The document was not identified as a “bill of rights” but as a slate of amendments. The whereas part (not exactly a preamble, as such) reads  
_The conventions of a number of states, at the time of their adopting the Constitution, exprefsed a desire, in order to prevent the misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declatory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best ensure the beneficial ends of its institution._

That sound exactly not at all as though _Article the Fourth_\* was intended to preserve the right to take up arms against the government. They meant for the Bill of Rights to keep that from happening, and anyone who holds otherwise should have the gold fringe on their flag rent off with great vigour.

\*The first Article was never ratified, and that is probably a good thing, because if it had stood as is, the House would have over six thousand members; the second Article was ratified in 1992 as Amendment 27

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/47 "2018-03-24T06:03:36Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I would imagine that very few people do that. Not many people have a Mary statue there, either, in part because they can be dangerous in an accident.

o/` I don't care if it rains or freezes 's long as I have my plastic Jesus glued to the dashboard of my car... o/`

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/48 "2018-03-24T06:14:21Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [Not quite](http://billofrightsinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/AP_Documents_BillofRights.jpg). The document was not identified as a “bill of rights” but as a slate of amendments. The whereas part (not exactly a preamble, as such) reads  
> _The conventions of a number of states, at the time of their adopting the Constitution, exprefsed a desire, in order to prevent the misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declatory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best ensure the beneficial ends of its institution._
> 
> That sound exactly not at all as though _Article the Fourth_\* was intended to preserve the right to take up arms against the government. They meant for the Bill of Rights to keep that from happening, and anyone who holds otherwise should have the gold fringe on their flag rent off with great vigour.
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> \*The first Article was never ratified, and that is probably a good thing, because if it had stood as is, the House would have over six thousand members; the second Article was ratified in 1992 as Amendment 27

For your convenience, I called it the Bill of Rights so casual readers would know what I was talking about. What anybody called it is not germane to the fact that “in order to” precedes the rationale they had in mind as their purpose of adding the amendments. The only reason they gave was “in order to prevent the misconstruction or abuse of its powers”, and any other reasons, like hunting, was not mentioned.

It is to “take up arms”:, if you wish, atainst those would misconstrue or abuse (their words) the Constitution, whether the misconstrue is named Trump or Fudd.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/49 "2018-03-24T14:56:31Z")

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My crew at the big airplane factory got a much needed new member this week. It appears he decided just recently that the laws and police are violations to his right to “common law” and that he does not need to follow either. He claims he will no longer carry a driver’s license, license his vehicle and traffic laws won’t apply to him as long as he doesn’t infringe on any other’s common laws. He can drive where he wants, ignore tolls and entry fees. Any attempt by the police to interfere with this freedom will result in him defending himself, if it means killing the cop, so be it.

I informed him by doing this, he is infringing on my “common law”. He told me because I choose to be depressed by the “man”, I don’t have any rights to common law. To end the conversation, I informed him that one of his job duties will involve driving company vehicles. The company requires drivers of said vehicles have a valid driver’s license in their possession. Failure to comply with company policy will result in correction action, including loss of one’s job. I’m letting management deal with him now.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/50 "2018-03-24T15:29:44Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> I informed him by doing this, he is infringing on my “common law”. He told me because I choose to be depressed by the “man”, I don’t have any rights to common law…

He really said that? I haven’t heard “The Man” used unironically since hippie days.

One of YOUR job duties is to engage this yahoo in conversation as much as possible and report back to us. Bonus points if you poke him a bit. Extra super bonus points if you shoot video (especially if you can get the interplay between him and management… heck, you’d be a big deal on YouTube!).

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/51 "2018-03-24T16:35:32Z")

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Things I have learned from the radical anti-abortion protestors I’ve talked to:

1. Gay adoption is child abuse.
2. Gay people are mentally ill and can be cured.
3. All women who have abortions became infertile, and some have three of more (go figure).
4. There is no such thing as a gay person
5. Your lesbian sister’s adopted child are not your nieces.
6. The two children your sister and her [del]wife[/del] sexual partner took in would have been better off in foster care.
7. My all time favorite: A man interviewed thousands of children raised in gay households, and he found they have a much higher rate of drug abuse and suicide (he interviewed people who committed suicide?)

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/52 "2018-03-24T17:43:29Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Things I have learned from the radical anti-abortion protestors I’ve talked to:  
> …
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> 1. All women who have abortions became infertile, and some have three of more (go figure).

Well, they do.

Might take a couple of decades, say, 'til after menopause, mind… 😉

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/53 "2018-03-24T18:00:06Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> \*The first Article was never ratified, and that is probably a good thing, because if it had stood as is, the House would have over six thousand members

People keep saying that, but it certainly would solve that whole gerrymander thing, and make it much more expensive to buy legislation.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/54 "2018-03-24T18:04:23Z")

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There are doctors and scientists who have done research to show that women on birth control have uterii that are [peppered with tiny dead babies](https://wonkette.com/499582/on-the-pill-tiny-dead-fetuses-are-eating-your-innards).

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/55 "2018-03-24T18:23:38Z")

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Oh, yeah, we exchanged cassettes with my cousin when he was stationed at Schofield. On one of them, he was talking to some guys about this other soldier who had to have a testicle removed, “_… It was the left one. That’s the shooting ball. So now it just dribbles out._”

(How he would be privy to the state of the other soldier’s ejaculations is as much of a mystery as where he learned this – probably from following a dairy bull around, as he was quite well known in the family for his deficit of honesty.)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/56 "2018-03-24T18:56:46Z")

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> [@kferr](#):
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> I once knew a British guy who was convinced the moon landing were a hoax. Not because of any dodgy shadows on photos, but because if flying to the moon could have been done then the British would have done it first.

I had a manger that was convinced that we never went to the moon. I played along with, and furthered his conspiracy theory by pointing out that there actually isn’t a moon at all.

Some points I raised.

Tides come twice a day, if the moon was causing it, then the water should be pulled towards the moon, not away from it, causing only one tide a day.

There are no mentions of the moon in any literature prior to 1950.

There shouldn’t be phases of the moon, if it were really in space, there’d be nothing to cast a shadow on it.

It’s bigger on the horizon than it is in the sky, because it is closer when it is setting and raising.

I had some other reasons why the moon doesn’t exist, but it was about 20 years ago, and as none of them are true, I can’t really recreate them.

I even went home and wrote up a website, then gave him the URL the next day, he was utterly convinced (if its on the internet, it must be true), and said he was going to share the link with his friends who didn’t believe him.

> [@Folacin](#):
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> People keep saying that, but it certainly would solve that whole gerrymander thing, and make it much more expensive to buy legislation.

Much more personal representation, if a congresscritter only has 30,000 constituents rather than the best part of a million. So, we’d have to turn the house into a stadium, that’s not that hard to do.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/57 "2018-03-24T19:16:14Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> … I had some other reasons why the moon doesn’t exist, but it was about 20 years ago, and as none of them are true, I can’t really recreate them.
> 
> I even went home and wrote up a website, then gave him the URL the next day, he was utterly convinced (if its on the internet, it must be true), and said he was going to share the link with his friends who didn’t believe him.

That is brilliant. I mean, trolling him was already, but concocting your own website just for him? Nice!

Now, can you do me a favor? Make a page that proves that that all a Freeman On The Land needs to do is run naked into a session of Congress and shout 'Gimme All Uh Whats You Owes Me!" and the Speaker of the House immediately hands the Freeman a satchel filled with a million dollars in cash, and a plane ticket to the secret state of Freelandia, complete with a deed for ten acres.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/58 "2018-03-24T19:41:07Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> That is brilliant. I mean, trolling him was already, but concocting your own website just for him? Nice!

It was the late 90’s. Writing websites for shits and giggles was what we did back then. Didn’t pay for a domain, just used [yi.org](http://yi.org), which I suppose, sadly, is no longer in existence. (website redirection)

> [@](#):
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> Now, can you do me a favor? Make a page that proves that that all a Freeman On The Land needs to do is run naked into a session of Congress and shout 'Gimme All Uh Whats You Owes Me!" and the Speaker of the House immediately hands the Freeman a satchel filled with a million dollars in cash, and a plane ticket to the secret state of Freelandia, complete with a deed for ten acres.

I’ve seen some sovereign citizen sites, and I don’t think I could actually come up with anything to top their claims. (Full disclosure, my brother is a sov cit, and was always talking about how he has an account with millions of dollars in it, if he can just use the [ambifacient lunar waneshaft in such a way that side fumbling is effectively prevented](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboencabulator).)

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/59 "2018-03-24T20:40:58Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> My crew at the big airplane factory got a much needed new member this week. It appears he decided just recently that the laws and police are violations to his right to “common law” and that he does not need to follow either. He claims he will no longer carry a driver’s license, license his vehicle and traffic laws won’t apply to him as long as he doesn’t infringe on any other’s common laws. He can drive where he wants, ignore tolls and entry fees. Any attempt by the police to interfere with this freedom will result in him defending himself, if it means killing the cop, so be it.
> 
> I informed him by doing this, he is infringing on my “common law”. He told me because I choose to be depressed by the “man”, I don’t have any rights to common law. To end the conversation, I informed him that one of his job duties will involve driving company vehicles. The company requires drivers of said vehicles have a valid driver’s license in their possession. Failure to comply with company policy will result in correction action, including loss of one’s job. I’m letting management deal with him now.

How did this guy get hired?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pure-unadulterated-stupid/811030/60 "2018-03-24T20:44:05Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> This isn’t stupid, but just odd (and something I posted about before):  
> A little over a decade ago, I knew a Chinese man who was posting on an Internet message board, and exulting over the fact that China was making significant progress in producing its own stealth jet fighters. Now, given that he was a military enthusiast, this was nothing surprising, until he explained his thought process further: He felt that Western women would now be more interested in dating Chinese men, because surely such women were following global aerospace and military developments of this sort, and now that China was making its own stealth fighters, they would be more attracted to Chinese men as a result. :dubious:

Considering that there is a drastic shortage of women in some areas of China, for reasons beyond the scope of this board, he may have a valid point.

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