# Purely as a matter of Pit Tradition.... NEW CHICK TRACT!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 2, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017 "2002-11-02T20:25:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/21 "2002-11-02T22:00:19Z")

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hypothetically, what do you think would happen if one day Jack Chick came out and said, “hey, this is all a joke, i’ve been messing with you guys for the past ‘X’ years! Haw Haw Haw!”

Anyway, this was a very funny tract. If Chick is serious, he is losing his touch. I was to busy laughing to worry about Jesus coming down and tossing me into hell. Not that I’d mind, actually, I imagine hell would be rather tastefully decorated, what with all those gay “sickos” down there. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/22 "2002-11-02T22:06:06Z")

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Christianitwho now?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/23 "2002-11-02T22:30:47Z")

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What’s with the Tolkein-like rune writing on the tablets of Moses? I thought that that elf and dragon stuff was evil.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/24 "2002-11-02T22:37:06Z")

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And where are these kids? Are they at a park, and Bob just happens to be there?

I mean, what kind of example is this setting for our kids-it’s okay to listen to skeevy looking mustasched strangers?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/25 "2002-11-02T22:45:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Gaudere \*  
> If the kids’ ^%%# bit were “Jesus Christ” they certainly swear oddly.
> 
> “Where the Jesus Christ have you been?”  
> “What the Jesus Christ is wrong with you?”  
> “So what? That’s none of your Jesus Christ business.”  
> “What’s your Jesus Christ problem?”

No kidding. I started reading the first few panels and I thought “What? Jack Chick’s Lord is named ‘Fuck’?”

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/26 "2002-11-02T22:59:16Z")

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What interests me is the idea that Jesus Christ existed as a separate entity in the Old Testament, somehow separate and distinct from God. That is totally unsupported by the OT, where no mention is made of Jesus except in prophecy (if you choose to read the prophecies that way), and where the only supernatural actor is God – meaning, God the Father, not God the Son. But I wonder if Jack knows what _major_ religion believes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are and always have been distinct?

_ **The Catholics!!!** _

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/27 "2002-11-02T23:00:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*And where are these kids? Are they at a park, and Bob just happens to be there?
> 
> I mean, what kind of example is this setting for our kids-it’s okay to listen to skeevy looking mustasched strangers? \*\*

I think they’re at a school, maybe Bob’s main squeeze is a teacher. She does something involving documents and bails on him, but then there’s that wide shot what looks an awful lot like a school, the one that has all the kids skating all over it. How impudent!

Wherever they are, I still want to know why there’s a pit with a triceratops and a gazebo. Those two things do not go together in my mind.

LC

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/28 "2002-11-02T23:04:07Z")

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Hehehe. Chick-boy is branching out the product line. This ad is so goofy! I love it.

[http://www.chick.com/ads/rackad.asp](http://www.chick.com/ads/rackad.asp)

LC

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/29 "2002-11-02T23:15:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jodi \*  
> What interests me is the idea that Jesus Christ existed as a separate entity in the Old Testament, somehow separate and distinct from God. That is totally unsupported by the OT, where no mention is made of Jesus except in prophecy (if you choose to read the prophecies that way), and where the only supernatural actor is God – meaning, God the Father, not God the Son. But I wonder if Jack knows what _major_ religion believes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are and always have been distinct?
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> _ **The Catholics!!!** _

AFAIK, there’s no real disagreement between Catholics and most Protestant denominations about the Trinity. They pretty much all believe that even though the Son is “begotten” by the Father, the Son is also just as eternal as the Father. There was never a time (according to mainstream Christian theology) before God became a Trinity. The three “Persons” have always been distinct but not separated from one another.

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/30 "2002-11-02T23:26:54Z")

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Yeah, I seem to remember God appearing to Abraham as all three at the same time, way back in Genesis. Who knows if that’s apocryphal, but it’s still interesting.

LC

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/31 "2002-11-03T00:31:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by MEBuckner \*  
> \*\*No kidding. I started reading the first few panels and I thought “What? Jack Chick’s Lord is named ‘Fuck’?” \*\*

…the power of Fuck compel you!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/32 "2002-11-03T01:18:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jodi \*  
> **What interests me is the idea that Jesus Christ existed as a separate entity in the Old Testament, somehow separate and distinct from God. That is totally unsupported by the OT, where no mention is made of Jesus except in prophecy (if you choose to read the prophecies that way), and where the only supernatural actor is God – meaning, God the Father, not God the Son.**

It is often supported by the use of the first person plural “we” and “us” in Genesis. Genesis 3:22 “And the LORD God said, ‘The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.’”

Of course, Jewish scholars interpret this differently.

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**Author:** ![Jaakko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@Jaakko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaakko)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/33 "2002-11-03T01:45:39Z")

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“The father, the son and the holy ghost” , or should that be “the fuck”?

😃

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/34 "2002-11-03T01:49:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \*  
> \*\*Hehehe. Chick-boy is branching out the product line. This ad is so goofy! I love it.
> 
> [http://www.chick.com/ads/rackad.asp](http://www.chick.com/ads/rackad.asp)  
> \*\*

Oh good @!!!\*\*! how tacky.

Yes, now **you too** can turn your church vestibule into a comics store, complete with comic… ehrrr, tract rack.

Heheh.

And here I was thinking it would be something tasteful, like dark wood or something. yeeek.

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**Author:** ![TelcontarStorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TelcontarStorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TelcontarStorm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/35 "2002-11-03T01:52:27Z")

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If this is takin’ the Lord;s name in vain then let me go down beggin’

JESUS CHRIST! Chick is sick. Please heal him.

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**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/36 "2002-11-03T01:55:00Z")

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“…Jesus sent fire bombs from Heaven and fried their bodies…”

Holy crap! Jesus has weapons of mass destruction? Now we’re going to have to send in inspectors, impose sanctions, maybe even invade.

This war on terrorism may take a little longer than we thought.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/37 "2002-11-03T02:14:08Z")

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Yeah, I think we’ll get spanked on that one. You think house to house fighting in Baghdad is going to be bad…try it in the silver city sometime.

Though I freely admit that, this morning coming out of the market there were three skate rats (13 years old or so) cursing up a storm and on my way past I told one of them, “Mind your language, young man.” To which I got a ‘yes, sir’.

Which proves I’m getting old, I guess. And that we have polite skate rats up here.

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**Author:** ![agiantdwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@agiantdwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agiantdwarf)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/38 "2002-11-03T02:55:53Z")

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My favorite thing about Jack Chick tracks is how people will throw away their whole tradition and lifestyle after a few sentences about Jesus.

Stereotypical Muslim: Ahalahu Akhbar! Muslims r00l christians DR00l!!!

Super Duper Christian Man: Jesus Christ died for your sins 🙂

Stereotypical Muslim: Hey man…hmm…I think I’m Christian 🆒

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**Author:** ![boomvark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@boomvark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boomvark)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/39 "2002-11-03T03:38:00Z")

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Wow.

Chick’s “art” has always been atrocious, but I swear it’s gotten progressively worse over the past few years.

His tracts have been around since at least the early 70s, and I can’t help but wonder if Chick is still drawing all of them. Maybe he’s dumping more of the workload on interns now, or something.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purely-as-a-matter-of-pit-tradition-new-chick-tract/135017/40 "2002-11-03T04:17:19Z")

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JESUS CHRIST, what was that GODDAMN FUCKING SHIT?

😃

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