# Purim Fest 1946 -- fact or fiction?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 4, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521 "2004-03-04T15:25:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/21 "2013-03-08T00:39:16Z")

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So let me see if I understand

1. He actually said this

2. He at least kinda got it right but probably was commenting on the fact that the “Jews” were getting their revenge for his actions and words, in a round about way

3. He was an incredible a-hole, I followed some of the links from wiki to images/translations of his magazine

**Capt**

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/22 "2013-03-08T15:43:26Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> Nine years to be corrected. That’s got to be some kind of record around here. 😛

Hah! I was corrected after [_eleven_ years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=101858) for using the wrong verb.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/23 "2013-03-08T16:19:24Z")

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This problem wouldn’t happen with Hebrew, but in English, people executed by hanging are “hanged by the neck until dead.” An inanimate object as a picture are hung on the wall.

Dead bodies are inanimate. Were Haman’s sons hung or hanged?

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/24 "2013-03-08T17:21:34Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> This problem wouldn’t happen with Hebrew, but in English, people executed by hanging are “hanged by the neck until dead.” An inanimate object as a picture are hung on the wall.
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> Dead bodies are inanimate. Were Haman’s sons hung or hanged?

🙂

I always get this wrong. It’s worse with me on lighted or lit (fire or spotlight).

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**Author:** ![Clark\_Cello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Clark\_Cello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_Cello)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/25 "2013-03-09T02:04:05Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> ETA: funny how they hanged this asshole, but spared Albert Speer. Maybe courtroom contrition outweighs comparative magnitude as far as crimes against humanity go.

Regardless of whether Speer deserved to die or not, I don’t think anyone needs to take a backseat to Streicher in regard to crimes against humanity.

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**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/26 "2013-03-10T20:55:11Z")

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Am I the only one who’s surprised to find that “fest” was in [somewhat] common usage in the 1940s? I think of it as a 1990s (roughly) phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/27 "2013-03-10T21:14:03Z")

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> [@Cayuga](#):
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> Am I the only one who’s surprised to find that “fest” was in [somewhat] common usage in the 1940s? I think of it as a 1990s (roughly) phenomenon.

Not if you consider that Streicher was German and that(presumably - as I don’t know a great amount of German) that it the natural German word for a “celebration of Purim” would be Purimfest.

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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/28 "2013-03-10T21:15:18Z")

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> [@Cayuga](#):
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> Am I the only one who’s surprised to find that “fest” was in [somewhat] common usage in the 1940s? I think of it as a 1990s (roughly) phenomenon.

Presumably he was speaking German.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/29 "2013-03-10T21:15:36Z")

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> [@Cayuga](#):
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> Am I the only one who’s surprised to find that “fest” was in [somewhat] common usage in the 1940s? I think of it as a 1990s (roughly) phenomenon.

I was, until it occurred to me that [Oktoberfest](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest#History) has been around for over 200 years.

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**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/30 "2013-03-11T00:45:20Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> Not if you consider that Streicher was German and that(presumably - as I don’t know a great amount of German) that it the natural German word for a “celebration of Purim” would be Purimfest.

Wait. The Nazi war criminal was German? Well, that explains it then. :smack:

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**Author:** ![AlizaGryn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@AlizaGryn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlizaGryn)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/31 "2014-03-18T08:59:56Z")

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It’s mentioned in the 1946 Eyewitness account given by INS reporter Kingsbury Smith: [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergNews10\_16\_46.html](http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergNews10_16_46.html)

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/32 "2014-03-18T09:28:11Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> I’ve often seen reported on the Net (so it must be true… :rolleyes: ) and other places that when Julius Streicher was hung in 1946, his last words were “Purim Fest 1946!” I’m curious, however, as to how true this actually is. Most of the reports I’ve seen cite Newsweek from October of that year, but I haven’t actually seen a copy of the magazine.
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> Did Streicher really shout this at his execution?
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> Zev Steinhardt

IIRC, Streicher didn’t shout it, he said it to whoever it was that was walking him up the scaffold. Could be wrong, tho.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/33 "2014-03-18T09:29:15Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> This problem wouldn’t happen with Hebrew, but in English, people executed by hanging are “hanged by the neck until dead.” An inanimate object as a picture are hung on the wall.
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> Dead bodies are inanimate. Were Haman’s sons hung or hanged?

“And they was right, but they weren’t dead.”

You get the idea.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/purim-fest-1946-fact-or-fiction/232521/34 "2014-03-18T15:51:53Z")

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