# Pushing Daisies 10/22 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081 "2008-10-22T16:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/41 "2008-10-24T01:32:32Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > This is my first incident of a possibly dead-on-its-feet show that I’m watching and loving NOW. And it really hurts to think about it. Oh. After the first few dozen, it gets easier. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/42 "2008-10-24T01:44:52Z")
I think my only one was Police Squad. I loved that show and some brain dead exec killed it after 6 episodes. I assume Futurama does not count. I found \*Dead Like Me \* only after Showtime decided to discontinue the show. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/43 "2008-10-24T14:58:39Z")
> [@Pollux\_Oil](#): > > I feel like the show is more cute and adorable than erotic and sexy Yeah, but that’s always been the joke. They live in this hyper-realized fairyland which leads you to think it’s chaste – but it ain’t chaste. Remember when Ned put the plexiglass in his car so he and Chuck could ride together? And he put a hole in the glass with a rubber glove so they could “touch.” But that glove wasn’t up near his shoulder, was it? This is the way the show works – because of the way it’s shot and the colorful sets and wacky characters, it seems at first like a confection. But it’s actually very dark indeed. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/44 "2008-10-24T16:41:00Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > Yeah, but that’s always been the joke. They live in this hyper-realized fairyland which leads you to think it’s chaste – but it ain’t chaste. Remember when Ned put the plexiglass in his car so he and Chuck could ride together? And he put a hole in the glass with a rubber glove so they could “touch.” But that glove wasn’t up near his shoulder, was it? > > This is the way the show works – because of the way it’s shot and the colorful sets and wacky characters, it seems at first like a confection. But it’s actually very dark indeed. > > –Cliffy Good point, but I think you’ve got the specific example of the car-glove wrong. We see them using that to hold hands - while it certainly _could_ be used in other ways, I think we’re meant to see that as its primary purpose. By the way - did anyone else catch how Chuck saved Ned from the falling Spartan? Now _that_ is quick thinking. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/45 "2008-10-24T18:01:28Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Oh. > After the first few dozen, it gets easier. That’s a lie. It never gets any easier. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/46 "2008-10-24T18:14:18Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > BTW, everyone’s raving about Emerson’s mom, but no love for David Arquette? I love him. Well, adding your vote to Courteney Cox’s, that brings the planetary total to 2. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/47 "2008-10-24T19:09:18Z")
Oddly, in a episode that was quite focused on Emerson, he had less hilarious lines than normal, I felt. In fact, I think I laughed less this epsiode than at any other I can remember. Which is not to say I didn’t like it - I did - I just wasn’t howling as I normally am. I enjoyed the beginning narration, when Emerson found detecting the truth to be “Bad Ass.” Well done by the narrator. I’m sad to say I can almost guarantee this show will not last, since it is my current favorite and my television heart is always trampled upon by network execs. (Look, you pricks, just because I like _Law & Order_ and it’s been on for 292 years, doesn’t mean you have to cancel every other show I like for balance. Fuckers.) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/48 "2008-10-24T19:24:10Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Well, adding your vote to Courteney Cox’s, that brings the planetary total to 2. You forgot Patricia and Rosanna. That’s 4. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/49 "2008-10-24T19:29:19Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Well, adding your vote to Courteney Cox’s, that brings the planetary total to 2. Damn, that’s cold. Seriously, no one likes him but me? Is there something I don’t know about him? ---
**Author:** ![spoike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@spoike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spoike)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/50 "2008-10-24T19:59:04Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Damn, that’s cold. Seriously, no one likes him but me? > > Is there something I don’t know about him? I normally find David Arquette\* irritating (he seems very caught up in his identity as a wacky guy), but I thought he did a good job in the role, in that I found myself feeling a little sad for the character. He was just such a misfit, and I sympathize with people who struggle to fit in. I did think Ned was rather a jerk to him at the pie shop. I was glad that Ned apologized, and that Arquette’s character didn’t forgive him instantly. \*_In all honesty, I find the whole Arquette clan irritating. I don’t know why that is._ ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/51 "2008-10-24T20:00:37Z")
> [@spoike](#): > > \*_In all honesty, I find the whole Arquette clan irritating. I don’t know why that is._ They’re kind of like the down-class edition of The Baldwins[sup]TM[/sup]. With the obvious exception being that The Baldwins[sup]TM[/sup] don’t have an attention-whore transgender sibling. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/52 "2008-10-24T20:08:58Z")
Down-class of The Baldwins[sup]TM[/sup]? Is that possible? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/53 "2008-10-24T20:10:45Z")
I don’t associate David Arquette as “an Arquette.” I had to google him to get his name. I just think of him as “that guy I like.” Baldwins, DeLuises and Wilsons, I associate with each other, with varying degrees of like and dislike. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/54 "2008-10-24T21:20:59Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Good point, but I think you’ve got the specific example of the car-glove wrong. We see them using that to hold hands - while it certainly _could_ be used in other ways, I think we’re meant to see that as its primary purpose. I think this is exactly why I see it as an example of the show using misdirection to pretend it’s a fairy tale when it’s actually quite adult. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/55 "2008-10-25T04:42:46Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Incidentally, it’s not _necessarily_ a Daisyverse thing that Emerson’s mother is white. Look at Barack Obama, for only one example in the real world. Poor post on my part - I hadn’t seen the show yet, and probably shouldn’t have opened the thread or link at the time. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/56 "2008-10-25T21:48:08Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > Now it’s still very sweet, funny, and visually interesting, but its lost its faintly perverse abstinent eroticism. Which is to its loss, I think. What about the cascade of dead bees being poured onto Ned’s naked body and then coming back to life and flying away? > [@alphaboi867](#): > > So Ned’s a vegetarian; did we already know that? It makes sense; think of what could happen if he tried to eat meat.:eek: Fresh sushi! ---
**Author:** ![DJScherr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DJScherr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DJScherr)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/57 "2008-10-25T22:33:39Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I love this show. I know it’s fantasy, and I need to just roll with it. But I cannot figure out why Chuck not only stays around Ned, but why she doesn’t cover herself in saran wrap. If she accidentally brushes up against Ned, she’s dead. There’s living on the edge with your borrowed time, and there’s playing with matches in a gunpowder factory. Chuck is doing the second. Well I and my viewing companion are of the opinion that since Ned doesn’t know the full extent of his powers doesn’t realize that once someone is ‘alive again’ for a certain amount of time that they become immune to the second touch. I’d even go so far as to say they will have him touch Chuck a second time and will not be able to see what happens to her body, maybe she gets knocked out or something. Then for some reason later (maybe while trying to console Ned) that Digby will rush him and there is nothing that Ned can do about it. He will understand there is a new immunity rule, and Chuck will knock on the door or whatever. I don’ t think that would happen till the end of the show though. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/58 "2008-10-25T22:40:27Z")
> [@DJScherr](#): > > Well I and my viewing companion are of the opinion that since Ned doesn’t know the full extent of his powers doesn’t realize that once someone is ‘alive again’ for a certain amount of time that they become immune to the second touch. I’d even go so far as to say they will have him touch Chuck a second time and will not be able to see what happens to her body, maybe she gets knocked out or something. Then for some reason later (maybe while trying to console Ned) that Digby will rush him and there is nothing that Ned can do about it. He will understand there is a new immunity rule, and Chuck will knock on the door or whatever. I don’ t think that would happen till the end of the show though. That would be a bit too easy as I think Digby would know if it was safe. This is a dog that has been shown pulling fire alarms already. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/59 "2008-10-25T22:44:20Z")
Yeah, Digby has been established as knowing instinctively what is or isn’t safe. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081/60 "2008-10-26T01:01:34Z")
Besides, Ned experimented with the parameters of his powers when he was in school. It showed him with two jars of bugs, touching them, timing things. If it was that easy he would’ve figured it out by now. StG [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-10-22/469081.md?page=4)