# Pushing Daisies 11/28

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 28, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061 "2007-11-28T18:32:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/21 "2007-11-29T18:39:03Z")

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[QUOTE=photopat]  
Got it. So, who died when he refused to kill Chuck?  
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The funeral director where her casket was (he pilfered valuables from his dead charges, so his death wasn’t seen as particularly tragic).

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/22 "2007-11-29T18:40:52Z")

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[QUOTE=ChuckForbin]  
I’m new to the show, only seen 2 (and a half) episodes, but what I’ve see I really like.  
Question - Does Olive know the whole story - specifically that ned can’t touch Chuck ?  
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No. She thinks Chuck has faked her death for some unknown reason, and that it’s a potentially lethal allergic reaction that prevents her from touching Ned.

You didn’t see them last night, but Chuck’s aunts believe she’s still dead, but Olive has a good relationship with them and has agreed to keep Chuck’s resurrection secret from them.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/23 "2007-11-29T18:49:33Z")

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Handprints - Chuck expositioned to Emerson that blood, if not cleaned up quickly with the right cleaning solution, can leave an oily film behind. She then sifted flour lightly over the counter, and the flour that didn’t blow off was sticking to the prints.

I wish I was some flour after watching that scene…

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/24 "2007-11-29T18:51:38Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
The funeral director where her casket was (he pilfered valuables from his dead charges, so his death wasn’t seen as particularly tragic).  
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There was a follow-up episode where Chuck learns someone else had to die in order for her to remain alive. It involved a swordfight, hidden treasure, and a Asian-American who talked with a Southern drawl.

I also found the Homeopathic Medicine Guy telling Olive what would happen if he couldn’t touch her very sweet.

This show continues to delight, and I take great pleasure letting myself be delighted.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/25 "2007-11-29T21:45:02Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
I think part of the fairy tale is everything looking very distinct and memorable and everything tying into the characters.

So far we have had  
Hummers = evil corporate executive types  
Lincoln Continental = Slimy, aggressive, small business owner with minimal ethics.

Each vehicles appears to be chosen with the character in mind.

Jim  
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Don’t forget the Dandy Lion car. What does that say about the people who drove it?

I wanted to smack Ned at the end, but I can see why he did what he did. That boy’s just too honest for his own good.

I loved Olive and Chuck breaking into the candy store. I nearly died laughing when Olive went through the door.

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/26 "2007-11-29T21:52:41Z")

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There was a moment of narration when Ned was cleaning up the rats in the candy shop which tickled me. I forget exactly, but I loved his dawning realization that not fighting back might be more difficult than fighting back.

(Of course, had I been Ned, I wouldn’t have taken the rats next door, but I wouldn’t have bothered trying to clean up after the rats, on the general premise that if there have been rats in such a location, a more thorough clean-up is needed than merely removing the rats).

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/27 "2007-11-29T22:22:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Eureka]  
(Of course, had I been Ned, I wouldn’t have taken the rats next door, but I wouldn’t have bothered trying to clean up after the rats, on the general premise that if there have been rats in such a location, a more thorough clean-up is needed than merely removing the rats).  
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That would apply to a world in which things actually excrete turds. In _PD_-land, I suspect everyone poops sequins and sunflowers.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/28 "2007-11-29T22:59:34Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
That would apply to a world in which things actually excrete turds. In _PD_-land, I suspect everyone poops sequins and sunflowers.  
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And ponies? Huh? Ponies?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/29 "2007-11-29T23:57:11Z")

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Have they ever explained how Ned can eat, since we might expect plant and animal matter to resurrect in his mouth?

And it apparantly doesn’t matter if the foodstuffs aren’t intact, as this episode shows him briefly resurrecting a big pile of leaves, all separated from their parent tree.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/30 "2007-11-30T02:11:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Have they ever explained how Ned can eat, since we might expect plant and animal matter to resurrect in his mouth?

And it apparantly doesn’t matter if the foodstuffs aren’t intact, as this episode shows him briefly resurrecting a big pile of leaves, all separated from their parent tree.  
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Sssshhhht ! you’ll wake up the inconsistencies 😃

On a serious note, I can’t wait to see the DVDs and listen to the commentaries !

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/31 "2007-11-30T02:49:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Have they ever explained how Ned can eat, since we might expect plant and animal matter to resurrect in his mouth?  
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They haven’t, and I found myself watching closely when he pulled the English muffins out of the toaster to see if he touched them and then touched them again. He didn’t.

Although he could have touched and untouched them before putting them in the toaster in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/32 "2007-11-30T07:26:24Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
Who was the health inspector? I’d call him a Poor Man’s Phil Hartman if that wasn’t competely tasteless.  
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Looks to me like [Steve Hytner](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0405337/), best known for playing Kenny Bania on “Seinfeld”.

Although nobody is yet listed in the IMDB credits for that role (Health Inspector Andrew Brown) for this episode.

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/33 "2007-11-30T07:54:16Z")

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I have a feeling that if it’s sufficiently processed, Ned can eat it. And that when it comes to plants, dead equals rotten. Picked and sliced isn’t dead enough.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/34 "2007-11-30T13:07:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Monstre]  
Looks to me like [Steve Hytner](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0405337/), best known for playing Kenny Bania on “Seinfeld”.

Although nobody is yet listed in the IMDB credits for that role (Health Inspector Andrew Brown) for this episode.  
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Good call, [Wiki has the guest stars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pushing_Daisies_episodes) listed as:  
Molly Shannon  
Field Cate  
Michael Cornacchia  
Raul Esparza  
**Steve Hytner**  
Mike White

Last night’s program got a big ratings jump, I wonder if it was the time or the lead ins bringing in some new people. The rating went from last weeks low of 4.7 up to a 6.2

Jim

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/35 "2007-11-30T13:31:26Z")

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[QUOTE=SpazCat]  
I loved Olive and Chuck breaking into the candy store. I nearly died laughing when Olive went through the door.  
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Olive: Do you have a credit card?

Chuck: You know how to pick the lock?

Olive: No, to pay for the broken glass.

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/36 "2007-11-30T13:37:24Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Last night’s program got a big ratings jump, I wonder if it was the time or the lead ins bringing in some new people. The rating went from last weeks low of 4.7 up to a 6.2

Jim  
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That’s interesting. It was on right after the new Shrek Christmas special, which apparently got huge ratings, and this year’s airing of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”, which didn’t do too bad either, for a 40-year old cartoon. And it seems to me that people who love the Grinch (like me) would be likely to enjoy “Pushing Daisies”. Someone at ABC’s programming department had their thinking cap on.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/37 "2007-11-30T14:37:38Z")

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[QUOTE=h.sapiens]  
That’s interesting. It was on right after the new Shrek Christmas special, which apparently got huge ratings, and this year’s airing of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”, which didn’t do too bad either, for a 40-year old cartoon. And it seems to me that people who love the Grinch (like me) would be likely to enjoy “Pushing Daisies”. Someone at ABC’s programming department had their thinking cap on.  
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I was thinking the same thing with the Grinch. The narrative form is very similar.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/38 "2007-11-30T18:04:53Z")

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[QUOTE=photopat]  
And ponies? Huh? Ponies?  
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In the case of ponies, it would be a bushel full of sequins and sunflowers at a shot.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Have they ever explained how Ned can eat, since we might expect plant and animal matter to resurrect in his mouth?  
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We had the same conversation at our house. My answer was much the same as **detop** ’s.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/39 "2007-11-30T19:19:12Z")

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[QUOTE=h.sapiens]  
That’s interesting. It was on right after the new Shrek Christmas special, which apparently got huge ratings.  
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Well, I’m glad people stayed tuned in for Pushing Daisies (if indeed that gave it a boost), because I watched the Shrek special, and it sucked ass. Cheesy, lame, and IMHO an embarrassment to the Shrek movie series.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-11-28/428061/40 "2007-11-30T19:29:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Monstre]  
Well, I’m glad people stayed tuned in for Pushing Daisies (if indeed that gave it a boost), because I watched the Shrek special, and it sucked ass. Cheesy, lame, and IMHO an embarrassment to the Shrek movie series.  
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On the other hand, they actually used the Waitresses’ “Christmas Wrapping”, which gives them _beaucoup_ points from me.

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