# Pushing Daisies 12/3: Comfort Food **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 3, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530 "2008-12-03T17:40:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/21 "2008-12-04T16:13:25Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > If you happened to buy/rent the season DVD of _Wonderfalls_, the Muffin Buffalo lady should look familiar. Beth Grant played the same character on a couple of episodes of that show. She was Jaye’s neighbor at the trailer park. Thanks. I knew she looked familiar and I couldn’t place it. Loved Olive’s song, too. She has an amazing voice. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/22 "2008-12-04T16:13:27Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Upon watching last night’s episode, I had but a single thought. > > Ned is an idiot. > > I don’t mean because of the way he investigates, or runs his business, or anything else. But how can you be heterosexual, male, and have Olive in love with you, and NOT reciprocate? Because he has the lovely Charlotte living with him and to paraphrase Emerson, “He’s just not into her that way.” It appears that until Chuck came back into his life he was a basketcase and loner. BTW: main female character in Daisies is Chuck In “Dead like Me” it was George and her sister Reggie. In “Wonderfalls” I think the main female was Jay. So what is up with the male names for women in his shows? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/23 "2008-12-04T16:20:22Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Because he has the lovely Charlotte living with him and to paraphrase Emerson, “He’s just not into her that way.” Not being into Olive that way is evidence of severe dysfunction. Of course, Olive, Ned, & Charlotte are all severely dysfunctional. I love this show, and I even like the Ned-Chuck dynamic, but they’re nuts. During the Ned-Chuck scene after the teaser, when they were speaking and standing so close to one another, I couldn’t keep from cringing. I could NOT bear being such a danger to the person I loved most in the world. I’d HAVE to break up with her, simply because the thought of accidentally killing her would be intolerable–far, far worse than seeing her be with someone else. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/24 "2008-12-04T16:28:40Z")
Come on, **Skald** …if Kristen Chenowith came up to you and said, “Take me, I’m yours,” you’d say, “Thanks, but I’m married.” Unless she’s on your List. But, we can appreciate someone’s beauty and not be in love with them, true? I cringe too at how close Ned and Chuck get sometimes, but I think we’re supposed to. And wouldn’t his arm get hot, encased in plastic like that? It has been implied that they have some sort of sex…he told Emerson they use “devices.” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/25 "2008-12-04T16:29:03Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Not being into Olive that way is evidence of severe dysfunction. Of course, Olive, Ned, & Charlotte are all severely dysfunctional. > > I love this show, and I even like the Ned-Chuck dynamic, but they’re nuts. During the Ned-Chuck scene after the teaser, when they were speaking and standing so close to one another, I couldn’t keep from cringing. I could NOT bear being such a danger to the person I loved most in the world. I’d HAVE to break up with her, simply because the thought of accidentally killing her would be intolerable–far, far worse than seeing her be with someone else. Honestly, I am not all that into Olive either. I almost always prefer the cute brunettes it seems like. I agree with them standing too close together and I think Bryan Fuller like to mess with his viewers with stuff like this. However, I could see trying to make it work, but maybe I am too much of a romantic. I nearly forgot, I of course enjoyed the Hobbit bit that Olive was rambling about. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/26 "2008-12-04T16:43:59Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Come on, **Skald** …if Kristen Chenowith came up to you and said, “Take me, I’m yours,” you’d say, “Thanks, but I’m married.” > > Unless she’s on your List. But, we can appreciate someone’s beauty and not be in love with them, true? She’s on BOTH our lists, happily, so it’d be a three-way. Hyperbole aside, my appreciation for Ms. Chenoweth is mostly aesthetic–by which I mean that, though I can name at least four actresses off the top of my head who are more comely, she is simply entrancing. When I am God-King she will be permitted to travel the lands unmolested so long as she wishes. [QUOTE=What Exit?] I agree with them [Ned & Chuck] standing too close together and I think Bryan Fuller like to mess with his viewers with stuff like this. However, I could see trying to make it work, but maybe I am too much of a romantic. I nearly forgot, I of course enjoyed the Hobbit bit that Olive was rambling about. [/QUOTE] I’m a romantic too, when I’m not being a corporate drone, a failed novelist, or a psychopathic mass-murdering supervillain currently planning to swamp the eastern seaboard with a tsunamic of sulfuric acid. That’s why I would such proximity intolerable. I’d rather pine away for **Kim the Rhymer** than hurt her. Even RISKNG hurt to her is too distressing to contemplate. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/27 "2008-12-04T17:28:26Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I loved this episode. It advanced the storyline, we see that Olive (my goodness, she wasn’t shy about cleavage, was she?) is still not quite over Ned, and Chuck used Ned but maybe it worked out okay because Dwight was the one who died. > > I loved Emerson’s “Hell yes I’m mad furious red hot upset with you and I’ll yell at you more later” line. And you could tell he was missing his daughter. > > I wonder if Vivian will think Lily killed Dwight instead of just chasing him off? > > We also found out that it wasn’t the watches that were the problem but the insurance policy, and as long as they didn’t say anything, Dwight wouldn’t. 😕 > > I heard they were going to end on a cliffhanger. Does anyone in the industry ( **Elenfair**?) have access to Bryan Fuller or any info on if there’s going to be a movie? > > **Bumbershoot** , I noticed the outfits at the Cook-Off too. The attention to detail in this show just blows me away. Did anyone notice in addition to the blue ribbon, Olive and Ned also won $10,000? The watch was insurance that Dwight wouldn’t talk - as long as Dwight had it, Chuck’s secret was safe - or more simply, Dwight would use the secret to make sure he got the watch back. We still dont know what the watch(es) mean - we still don’t know what Dwight’s overall plan was… YET. (here’s hoping we get those bits before #14) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/28 "2008-12-04T17:37:26Z")
I just realized that the showrunners of the only two scripted shows I watch are both gay (Silvio Horta of _Ugly Betty_ and Bryan Fuller of _Pushing Daisies_). I wonder if I’m picking up on some kind of “gay vibe” that makes me enjoy these shows more than other current scripted shows? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/29 "2008-12-05T03:26:01Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I wonder why, when Ned touches dead, shriveled, rotten fruit it returns to a fresh, perfect, fully ripe state, but humans don’t? And how can he not touch the fruit multiple times as he makes a pie? Or does the second touch rule only apply to animals? ---
**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/30 "2008-12-05T03:55:43Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > And how can he not touch the fruit multiple times as he makes a pie? Or does the second touch rule only apply to animals? Simple, he touches the fruit , then puts on gloves. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/31 "2008-12-05T04:00:09Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > And how can he not touch the fruit multiple times as he makes a pie? Or does the second touch rule only apply to animals? Actually his recipes explain this a bit. It had some extra notes scribbled in about handling the ingredients. I can’t find it though. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/32 "2008-12-05T04:12:58Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > And how can he not touch the fruit multiple times as he makes a pie? Or does the second touch rule only apply to animals? It applies. He once unknowingly bit into one of his own pies at Vivian & Lily’s and it reverted to rotten fruit in his mouth. > [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I wonder why, when Ned touches dead, shriveled, rotten fruit it returns to a fresh, perfect, fully ripe state, but humans don’t? Maybe slightly different rules apply to plants than animals. Hell maybe Chuck’s dad will slowy revert to a normal appearence. He’s the first long dead person Ned’s kept alive for more than a minute. ---
**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/33 "2008-12-05T06:18:22Z")
Best episode in a long time. Lots of great moments \_ “nether regions” \_ “clean thoughts, chum” \_ “that’s the peck of cahoots, which we are not in.” \_ Lovely Olive cleavage and a song. \_ The shock of seeing Chuck’s dad was alive. I literally said “Holy shit” out loud. \_ Cod throwing a shovel and then hearing a cat screech. \_ the tension of wondering whether Lilly was dead. \_ the costumes! ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/34 "2008-12-05T06:39:43Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > If you happened to buy/rent the season DVD of _Wonderfalls_, the Muffin Buffalo lady should look familiar. Beth Grant played the same character on a couple of episodes of that show. She was Jaye’s neighbor at the trailer park. Which means, of course, that _Pushing Daisies_ and _Wonderfalls_ are in the same universe. If only we could get Jaye into The Pie Hole before those bastidges take the show off the air… [SUB]Of course, Ned bears a striking resemblance to her brother…[/SUB] ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/35 "2008-12-05T12:20:10Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > [SUB]Of course, Ned bears a striking resemblance to her brother…[/SUB] And of course, there’s a mother superior in some ambiguously alpine nation who looks an awful lot like Jaye’s mother. And don’t forget about the Happy Time Temp Agency (from _Dead Like Me_) which showed up (in a throwaway line) in the season opener with the bees. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/36 "2008-12-05T13:49:01Z")
Another quote that made me laugh- when Col. Likkin’s widow said she was going into business with the donut guy, to make “finger lickin’ donut holes!” Ned said: “Sounds delicious- and filthy!” ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/37 "2008-12-05T14:01:46Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > It applies. He once unknowingly bit into one of his own pies at Vivian & Lily’s and it reverted to rotten fruit in his mouth. Interesting. I didn’t remember that. In the flashback to Ned’s childhood he certainly didn’t have any trouble eating the pies he made. Or maybe that was before Ned developed his “talent”? Has it been established when he acquired this ability? I’m certainly not going to harp on these types of inconsistencies. The show is enjoyably clever and original, and I love Olive. And I loved Olive singing Eternal Flame. I don’t know if they could do this, but I’d love to see them create a reason to have Olive sing a snippet of “Popular” from her role on Broadway as Galinda in Wicked – sort of an inside joke. (Or perhaps more appropriately, have her sing “I’m Not That Girl”) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/38 "2008-12-05T14:24:34Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > Interesting. I didn’t remember that. In the flashback to Ned’s childhood he certainly didn’t have any trouble eating the pies he made. > > Or maybe that was before Ned developed his “talent”? Has it been established when he acquired this ability? In the flashbacks he is eating pies made from fresh fruit. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/39 "2008-12-05T17:58:56Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > Interesting. I didn’t remember that. In the flashback to Ned’s childhood he certainly didn’t have any trouble eating the pies he made. > > Or maybe that was before Ned developed his “talent”? Has it been established when he acquired this ability? Ned was sent away to boarding school after his mother died, so that’s after his talent was discovered. I believe he gets older fruit because it’s cheaper, and he can zap it back to freshness at any time. (Was it ever revealed how he got the start-up money to start the Pie Hole?) There was a scene where a health inspector discovered all the rotting fruit. But what an irony…the piemaker can’t eat his own pies if he doesn’t use fresh fruit. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530/40 "2008-12-05T18:12:34Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Ned was sent away to boarding school after his mother died, so that’s after his talent was discovered. I believe he gets older fruit because it’s cheaper, and he can zap it back to freshness at any time. (Was it ever revealed how he got the start-up money to start the Pie Hole?) There was a scene where a health inspector discovered all the rotting fruit. But what an irony…the piemaker can’t eat his own pies if he doesn’t use fresh fruit. Has Olive been in on his magical talents all along? Or did she only find out what was up during the first season? And, seriously, Ned, Chuck over Olive? That’s as insane as choosing Arwen over Eowyn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-12-3-comfort-food/475530.md?page=3)