# Pushing Daisies is back!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017 "2008-10-01T16:52:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/41 "2008-10-02T13:42:08Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I caught myself grinning during the opening scenes…I was\* that \*happy to see the show back on! Did anyone catch Cobb’s book, _Little Gumshoe_? What’s up with that…he has a daughter he can’t find, and wrote the book so she would find him? > … > I LOVED Chuck’s dresses…I think I missed some of the dialogue because I was too busy admiring her dresses. > … > Sigh. Next Wednesday is so far away… He is hoping his daughter can find him. I already know I will watch this episode a second time before next week. I have little choice. I always catch stuff the second time I missed the first. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/42 "2008-10-02T13:58:09Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Vivian’s description of Chuck’s father’s pillow…ewwwwww! One of my favorite parts. Very Lemony Snicket. I missed part of the show last night and on the commercial asked my husband what I’d missed. He went through this whole deal about how the bee-person spit a cube at Chuck that was supposed to kill her because it had the queen in it, but she caught it in her mouth and then all the bees went on to her, and we don’t know who the bee-person is, but they just went to Betty’s old house and it’s all full of bees. I said, “Gee, I remember when I felt silly trying to explain Quantum Leap!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/43 "2008-10-02T14:31:32Z")
There was a point early in the episode where a lone bee buzzes by from the rear-left speaker of surround sound right next to where my girlfriend was sitting. She screamed and practically jumped over me on the right. 😃 We had to pause the show because we were laughing for 5 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/44 "2008-10-02T16:07:14Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I’m hoping we’ll see PeeWee back again. > > I’m glad they went through and explained everything again, but I still have trouble keeping things straight. For instance, what good does it do to keep Olive away from Vivian? She could still tell Chuck that Lily is her mother. Though what her motivations are, I’m not sure. I can never figure out who knows what and why it’s important to them. > … Lily explained this. If Viv finds out that Lily is Chuck’s mommy then the next question is “Who’s the daddy?”. Lily doesn’t want to have to explain that daddy was Viv’s fiance. All they have is each other now, she doesn’t want to risk losing her. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/45 "2008-10-02T16:48:00Z")
Okay, so Viv was engaged to Chuck’s father and Lily had an affair with her sister’s fiance and Chuck was born. When and why did Lily give Chuck to her father, and it seems Viv never married Chuck’s father, so who was Chuck’s stepmother? Rhetorical questions, I know, but right now, we will be looking forward to Little Gumshoe and Chuck’s abandoning father. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/46 "2008-10-02T16:55:12Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Okay, so Viv was engaged to Chuck’s father and Lily had an affair with her sister’s fiance and Chuck was born. > > When and why did Lily give Chuck to her father, and it seems Viv never married Chuck’s father, so who was Chuck’s stepmother? I _think_ that Viv was engaged to “John.” Lily had an affair with John and and Chuck was born. Lily gave the kid to “Steve,” her & Vivian’s brother. Steve and Lily kept this secret from Vivian. Steve is the guy that Chuck thinks of as her father, the one that Ned accidentally killed. Was Steve married? I don’t know. We’ve never heard about Chuck having a mother. I think. Maybe. But it also explains why Lily doesn’t want Vivian asking questions like “who is Chuck’s real father?” ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/47 "2008-10-02T16:59:38Z")
First of all, upthread people were having a conversation in spoiler boxes about Ned’s father. Was it in spoiler boxes because of something from outside the show, ie something you read in TV guide? Or was it just speculation? Or what? I need additional information before I can decide whether to look in those spoilers or not. Thanks. Anyhow, I thought this was a good episode, although I also thought it went a bit TOO fast, and I found parts of the super-snappy dialog a bit hard to catch over the music, particularly given that by the time you realized you’ve missed one line of dialog, it’s already 4 lines later and you can’t take a moment to mentally re-parse it. Nonetheless, the show continues to be utterly charming. > [@Wile E](#): > > The man Chuck thought was her father was her actually her uncle, Lily and Viv were his sisters. How do you know this? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/48 "2008-10-02T17:18:46Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > … > How do you know this? Re: Chuck’s “dad” I seem to recall it from the first season. I could be misremembering and I’m sure I will be corrected eventually if I am wrong but Lily and Viv are supposed to be Chuck’s aunts. I think it was said at some point that they were Chuck’s dad’s sisters. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/49 "2008-10-02T17:18:44Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > First of all, upthread people were having a conversation in spoiler boxes about Ned’s father. Was it in spoiler boxes because of something from outside the show, ie something you read in TV guide? Or was it just speculation? Or what? I need additional information before I can decide whether to look in those spoilers or not. Thanks. > Anyhow, I thought this was a good episode, although I also thought it went a bit TOO fast, and I found parts of the super-snappy dialog a bit hard to catch over the music, particularly given that by the time you realized you’ve missed one line of dialog, it’s already 4 lines later and you can’t take a moment to mentally re-parse it. Nonetheless, the show continues to be utterly charming. > > How do you know this? Can’t speak for Wile-E, but I think the logic is this - “Aunts” Lily and Vivian == sisters to the man Chuck knew as her father… which certainly does raise the question - who IS Chuck’s father. I believe in an earlier episode it is specifically stated that Chuck’s ‘mom’ passed when she was very young, or possibly when she was born - I dont think Chuck’s UncleDad had a wife/life partner for Chuck to think of as Mom. (wow, I understand what I just wrote, do any of you?) ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/50 "2008-10-02T17:27:12Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > First of all, upthread people were having a conversation in spoiler boxes about Ned’s father. Was it in spoiler boxes because of something from outside the show, ie something you read in TV guide? Or was it just speculation? Or what? I need additional information before I can decide whether to look in those spoilers or not. Thanks. It was speculation; you can go ahead and look. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/51 "2008-10-02T23:22:21Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > One of my favorite parts. Very Lemony Snicket. > > I missed part of the show last night and on the commercial asked my husband what I’d missed. He went through this whole deal about how the bee-person spit a cube at Chuck that was supposed to kill her because it had the queen in it, but she caught it in her mouth and then all the bees went on to her, and we don’t know who the bee-person is, but they just went to Betty’s old house and it’s all full of bees. I said, “Gee, I remember when I felt silly trying to explain Quantum Leap!” 🙂 That sounds like Homer Simpson’s description of Monty Burns’ security system: “The dogs or the bees or the dogs with bees in their mouths so when they bark they shoot bees at you?” The episode was very happy-making and practically perfect. The icing on the cake was when Pigby walked in. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/52 "2008-10-03T13:28:44Z")
Just Two thoughts- First, at the end it looked like Olive was cleaning truffles- That’s gonna come up in the future, I’m sure. Next, maybe Ned’s Dad didn’t abandon him for no reason- What if he had the same kind of abilities as Ned? That could provide a very good reason to want to be away from your loved ones, considering the possible dangers. I guess we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/53 "2008-10-03T13:30:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ecks](#): > > Just Two thoughts- First, at the end it looked like Olive was cleaning truffles- That’s gonna come up in the future, I’m sure. > > Next, maybe Ned’s Dad didn’t abandon him for no reason- What if he had the same kind of abilities as Ned? That could provide a very good reason to want to be away from your loved ones, considering the possible dangers. > > I guess we’ll see. But we saw that he went and got a new family with new kids. Nope, I think his dad was basically just a jerk. Maybe he is now having serious regrets? ---
**Author:** ![ashtayk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@ashtayk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashtayk)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/54 "2008-10-03T16:54:32Z")
Was it just me or did any one else feel that the background music was just too loud? We just could not hear the dialogues well in some places and it was mildly irritating to be told what to feel every second. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/55 "2008-10-03T16:58:00Z")
I don’t know about too loud, but the music did lean heavily on Rimsky-Korsakov (“The Flight of the Bumblebee”) which was cute at first but then got a bit distracting. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/56 "2008-10-03T19:35:39Z")
> [@ashtayk](#): > > Was it just me or did any one else feel that the background music was just too loud? > > We just could not hear the dialogues well in some places and it was mildly irritating to be told what to feel every second. It wasn’t just you- I mentioned it earlier, as did **MaxTheVool**.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017/57 "2008-10-04T22:24:56Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > To answer **Tanget’s** question, IMDB says they have 22 episodes planned for this season. Thanks! I was feeling very sorry for Vivian this episode, what with Olive avoiding her–leading to the confrontation in The Pie Hole at the beginning of this episode. And then her talk with Ned later about Charlotte. Vivian is the most “in the dark” of all the characters. The line that had me laughing out loud the most was (of course) from Emerson: “If you can’t hold it in, you take your ass to the restroom and cry on the toilet. Like a man.” It was his delivery that really sold it. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies-is-back/466017.md?page=2)