# Pushing Daisies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396 "2007-10-03T16:04:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/61 "2007-10-05T00:34:30Z")
I love The Pie Hole name. The characters are sweetly and sadly appealing, like the premise. The production design and visual effects/colors are also pretty good. Looks like someone actually knows what they’re doing. I hope the show lasts. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/62 "2007-10-05T02:15:51Z")
I loved _Edward Scissorhands_, _The Truman Show_, _Six Feet Under_, _Dead Like Me_. I wanted to like this, I expected to like this, and I did like parts of it: the humor was good, the quirkiness, irreverance and all that appeals to me. But halfway through I began to find the narration tediously irritating, the cleverness overly self-conscious (aren’t I clever!), and the rapidly-paced word plays too frequent (aren’t I clever!). It reminded me of the Harry Potter cartoonishness, British-accent and all, and the effort to follow suit bothered me. Didn’t this stuff bother anyone else? I barely made it through the episode. I’m not usually one to be ultra-critical, but this one just tried too hard. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/63 "2007-10-05T03:03:33Z")
Loved it. LOVED IT. Want to give everyone involved a big hug. Cute characters, good cast chemistry, good dialog, and a cute premise. Far and away my favorite new show of the season. You know what I really loved about this? Chuck and Ned do everything but explicitly confess their feelings for each other, and Ned is upfront about why he can’t touch Chuck. And their relationship is thus tragic but free from the angst and false drama so many lesser shows give us by not having the characters just \*talk \*to one another. I don’t really care how it is that Digby never jumped on Ned and thus expired, or how it would be a good idea for Ned to wear gloves and long sleeves around Chuck. That’s not really the kind of show this is. This isn’t Lost or Heroes where the point is exploring the details of weird powers and phenomena, it’s more about the characters and the emotions and pretty colors and stuff. It’s a fairy tale. It won it’s timeslot last night, so let’s hope it sticks around. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/64 "2007-10-05T03:52:54Z")
[QUOTE=drm] Burtonesque is precisely the word I used when I watched it. [/QUOTE] Exactly. I loved it. It was stylish and quirky. Great use of color and the dialouge was good. But I kept thinking that the boy must be nuts not jump on Kristen Chenoweth. I’ll keep watching. Which, of course, means it will cancelled after 13 episodes. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/65 "2007-10-05T03:57:06Z")
[QUOTE=spooje] Which, of course, means it will cancelled after 13 episodes. [/QUOTE] Optimist. ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/66 "2007-10-05T04:03:35Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Optimist. [/QUOTE] Shards, dear man. shards… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/67 "2007-10-05T07:21:41Z")
Man, this was great stuff. I normally like my television a lot darker than this - Battlestar Galactica’s my favorite show. But this show makes me _happy_, damnit. Yes, there are huge implausible and silly bits - they’re meant to be. But you can’t watch this show without a big damn grin on your face - it reminded me a lot of the “Stardust” movie, in that way. And good Ford, the women are hot. One cannot argue with that. I’m hoping these guys get a long, successful run. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/68 "2007-10-05T11:36:59Z")
WOW! What a beautiful show! Really makes me glad I invested in Hi-Def. I’m another one that doesn’t care about the holes - it’s just a great ride. By the way, it’s no accident that this brings to mind Wonderfalls. One of the exec producers was EP on Wonderfalls, as well as Dead Like Me. I just hope ABC is a little more generous with finding an audience that Fox was. cancelling Wonderfalls after 3 freakin’ 'sodes, fer crissakes… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/69 "2007-10-05T12:47:10Z")
[QUOTE=singular1] By the way, it’s no accident that this brings to mind Wonderfalls. One of the exec producers was EP on Wonderfalls, as well as Dead Like Me. [/QUOTE] Well, and of course the star was an actor on Wonderfalls… (Yeah, the brother - the atheist divinity major. Didn’t recognize him with a haircut, didja?) ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/70 "2007-10-05T13:50:21Z")
Hey, you’re right! No, I didn’t recognize him, although he did look naggingly familiar. By the way, why won’t he touch Chenowith? I didn’t get the impression she had died and been reincarnated. He can’t find her repulsive, can he? That’d be like not liking puppies! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/71 "2007-10-05T14:05:49Z")
[QUOTE=singular1] By the way, why won’t he touch Chenowith? I didn’t get the impression she had died and been reincarnated. He can’t find her repulsive, can he? That’d be like not liking puppies! [/QUOTE] I wondered that, too. Frankly, I’d be a little turned off by her, uh, vehemence, but I don’t think that’s it. I think they’re trying to emphasize that Ned’s chosen to avoid all personal connection by making it very literal. He won’t touch anyone romantically or sexually. What if, after all, he were to have a fully sexual and fufilling relationship with someone, and s/he died? He’d have to chose whether or not to leave her dead or kill someone else! And, of course, that’s exactly what happen with Chuck - although they weren’t physically intimate, he loves her, and had to chose between her and someone else. Of course, the someone else turned out to be A Bad Guy, which was fortunate. But next time it might be someone ELSE Ned cares about. Nope, best to keep everyone at an emotional and literal distance. If you don’t love, you can’t be hurt, or hurt anyone else. Ow. I feel like I’ve been beaten over the head with the Metaphor Stick. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/72 "2007-10-05T14:17:20Z")
My wife started gently crying when she realized that Chuck had died. She realized right away what that meant, and then she got mad when I told her they had figured out a way to prevent the Moonlighting problem. good show, it’ll be DVR’d so I can watch it. (sadly, I don’t expect it to last either. but it’ll be fun while it’s on) ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/73 "2007-10-05T14:37:11Z")
[QUOTE=spooje] Which, of course, means it will cancelled after 13 episodes. [/QUOTE] Well, since it won its timeslot, and is the third-highest rated new show premier this season, it may survive. The big test is next week – will it hold its ratings or will they drop? ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/74 "2007-10-05T15:03:38Z")
[QUOTE=RealityChuck] Well, since it won its timeslot, and is the third-highest rated new show premier this season, it may survive. The big test is next week – will it hold its ratings or will they drop? [/QUOTE] What was 1 and 2? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/75 "2007-10-05T16:02:51Z")
\*\*Bionic Woman \*\*and **Private Practice**. Since both were pre-sold (one a remake of a well-known name and the other a spinoff from a popular show), they had an advantage. [The article is here.](http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/10/04/wednesday-ratings-pushing-daisies-is-highest-rated-debut-at-8pm/) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/76 "2007-10-05T21:01:44Z")
Liked it a lot. I’m sure it’s Deeply Meaningful, but what was with the duplication of names? Charlotte Charles…Boutique Travel Travel Boutique…Darling Mermaid Darlings. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/77 "2007-10-05T21:11:24Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] Liked it a lot. I’m sure it’s Deeply Meaningful, but what was with the duplication of names? Charlotte Charles…Boutique Travel Travel Boutique…Darling Mermaid Darlings. [/QUOTE] Don’t forget the town’s name of Coeur d’Coeurs (Heart of Hearts). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/78 "2007-10-05T21:12:35Z")
[QUOTE=singular1] He can’t find her repulsive, can he? That’d be like not liking puppies! [/QUOTE] Maybe his libido has one of those “You must be this tall to ride Ned” signs. I knew a woman who I didn’t realize was very pretty until I saw her in heels, not because I have a high heel fetish (one of the few I don’t have) but because they made her tall enough. But really, it’s the emotional distance thing **WhyNot** and the narrator mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/79 "2007-10-05T21:19:09Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] Liked it a lot. I’m sure it’s Deeply Meaningful, but what was with the duplication of names? Charlotte Charles…Boutique Travel Travel Boutique…Darling Mermaid Darlings. [/QUOTE] Another example is the name of the town, [Couer d’Couers](http://pushingdaisies.wikia.com/wiki/Couer_d%27Couers), which translates (putting aside a spelling error) into “Heart of Hearts.” I don’t think it’s so much Deeply Meaningful as it is an easy opportunity to foster the fairytale atmosphere via the naming conventions. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396/80 "2007-10-05T21:21:20Z")
I really liked it, and I’m glad it did well in the ratings. The similarities to “Wonderfalls” had me worried. To be honest, I’m still worried, because this is just the type of show that could lose half its audience in the second week. Maybe just too quirky for most people. But I think the lead actors are charming and charismatic, and it looks so great, and the writing is clever—it could hang on. And how do you not love a show about a guy who bakes pies for a living, and the place he works is called “The Pie Hole” and the roof looks like a giant pie crust with a neon sign? I also noticed that Ned walks around a lot of the time with his hands jammed into his pockets. Part of his thing of not really liking to touch people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-daisies/421396.md?page=5)