# Pushing the Envelope, courtesy of The Onion **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 14, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663 "2012-09-14T04:32:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/1 "2012-09-14T04:32:27Z")
Let’s just say “No One Murdered Because Of This Image” is [NSFW.](http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/) ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/2 "2012-09-16T02:45:50Z")
I know the Onion exists to mock, but I don’t think publishing this cartoon was a good idea – not on the grounds of tastelessness, but because I wouldn’t assume _a priori_ that no one will be killed over it. Violent fanaticism is not unknown to Judaism, Christianity, or Hinduism, and all three are capable of furnishing people who might respond to this kind of mockery with murder. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/3 "2012-09-16T02:49:00Z")
Hahahah, I nearly choked on my cola. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/4 "2012-09-16T02:54:32Z")
I wouldn’t want to live in a world without mockery. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/5 "2012-09-16T03:00:23Z")
fapfapfapfapfapfapfap ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/6 "2012-09-16T03:06:05Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > fapfapfapfapfapfapfap You always come through. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/7 "2012-09-16T05:44:46Z")
But, we note, even the Onion didn’t dare include the Prophet of Medina in that cartoon! ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/8 "2012-09-16T11:48:42Z")
Where’s Clapton? ---
**Author:** ![Indian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@Indian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indian)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/9 "2012-09-16T12:21:14Z")
How come Hindu groups haven’t noticed this so far? ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/10 "2012-09-16T12:59:40Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > But, we note, even the Onion didn’t dare include the Prophet of Medina in that cartoon! Um, that would have ruined the point of the cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/11 "2012-09-16T13:08:31Z")
> [@Indian](#): > > How come Hindu groups haven’t noticed this so far? 'Cause they can see freakier shit in the carvings of their local temple? Also, it looks as if Ganesha has both a penis and a vagina. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/12 "2012-09-16T13:17:45Z")
> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#): > > I know the Onion exists to mock, but I don’t think publishing this cartoon was a good idea – not on the grounds of tastelessness, but because I wouldn’t assume _a priori_ that no one will be killed over it. Violent fanaticism is not unknown to Judaism, Christianity, or Hinduism, and all three are capable of furnishing people who might respond to this kind of mockery with murder. I’ve seen this linked a lot, and I keep thinking the subtitle should be “Tempting Fate”. ---
**Author:** ![Indian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@Indian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indian)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/13 "2012-09-16T13:46:41Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > 'Cause they can **see freakier shit in the carvings of their local temple?** > > Also, it looks as if Ganesha has both a penis and a vagina. Wow! Can you share some links of such temples, where Ganesha is anally fisting someone? Or blowing other Gods? If you are referring to [Khajuraho](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khajuraho_Group_of_Monuments), people are shown having sex, not dieties. I live in India and am not aware of this. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/14 "2012-09-16T14:14:27Z")
Sorry, I was a little too facetious–I really do apologize if I offended. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/15 "2012-09-16T14:27:39Z")
I suppose this is not the proper time for me to publish my series of Magdalene “pulling a train” with JC and all the Apostles, or of how Mother Mary was able to both remain physically virginal AND keep Joseph a happy husband… But yes, sadly, it’s more like “no one murdered _yet_ AFAWK”. And considering that Islam holds Moses and Jesus to be both great prophets as well, who knows… ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/16 "2012-09-16T14:47:42Z")
You know, I think that message speaks volumes. > [@](#): > > Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist faiths were reportedly offended by the image, sources confirmed that upon seeing it, they simply shook their heads, rolled their eyes, and continued on with their day I was on vacation last week. I’m looking forward to having some interesting discussions tomorrow with my Muslim and Hindu car pool partners regarding recent world events. ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/17 "2012-09-16T15:02:00Z")
> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#): > > I know the Onion exists to mock, but I don’t think publishing this cartoon was a good idea – not on the grounds of tastelessness, but because I wouldn’t assume _a priori_ that no one will be killed over it. Violent fanaticism is not unknown to Judaism, Christianity, or Hinduism, and all three are capable of furnishing people who might respond to this kind of mockery with murder. But they won’t, despite the false equivalence made by folks like you and **Der Trihs**. That’s the point of the cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/18 "2012-09-16T15:20:16Z")
> [@Shmendrik](#): > > But they won’t, despite the false equivalence made by folks like you and **Der Trihs**. That’s the point of the cartoon. How do you know they won’t? I don’t \*think \*they will, but I wouldn’t rule it out altogether. There’s just no accounting for the behavior of the crazies. Or are you saying that Hinduism, Christianity, and Judaism don’t have their fair share of the crazies? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn\_K\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Shawn\_K\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn_K_1)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/19 "2012-09-16T15:24:49Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I suppose this is not the proper time for me to publish my series of Magdalene “pulling a train” with JC and all the Apostles, or of how Mother Mary was able to both remain physically virginal AND keep Joseph a happy husband… > But yes, sadly, it’s more like “no one murdered _yet_ AFAWK”. And considering that Islam holds Moses and Jesus to be both great prophets as well, who knows… Sure, lets see it. ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663/20 "2012-09-16T15:29:08Z")
> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#): > > How do you know they won’t? I don’t \*think \*they will, but I wouldn’t rule it out altogether. There’s just no accounting for the behavior of the crazies. Or are you saying that Hinduism, Christianity, and Judaism don’t have their fair share of the crazies? I’m saying that unlike much of Islam in the Middle East, they are aware of and relatively comfortable with the fact that plenty of other people think their beliefs are bullshit. For example, many universities in the western world have courses which openly teach that the founders of Judaism and to a lesser extent Christianity _didn’t exist_ at all. When’s the last time you heard of radical Jews or Christians rioting at your local Bible Studies department offices? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pushing-the-envelope-courtesy-of-the-onion/634663.md?page=2)