# Put down that PB&J sandwich, you racist!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 22, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554 "2013-11-22T19:13:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/61 "2013-11-23T22:41:56Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> Yes, the school system should be aware of cultural differences that may challenge the references used in teaching, but they also should challenge students to expand their horizons.

But that was precisely the message of the PB&J reference; that there are cultural differences among the students.

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/62 "2013-11-23T22:43:30Z")

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> [@Blackberry](#):
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> But public schools used to commonly practice religion and spank kids, so I don’t know about “these days”. I don’t think you can really separate “raising” from “educating” anyway.

Yes, you have a point, but personally I think the balance has tipped _way_ to far in the other direction, probably as a consequence of _(in two parent families)_ both parents often having a full-time job and as a consequence less time to spend on their children.

A friend of mine from school is a teacher, he likes the job apart from the constant struggle to maintain discipline in the classroom. He told me of a parent teacher meeting he had once _(paraphrased)_ when the parents of ‘little Johnnie’ came in an irate state with him, “Little Johnnie is rude and ill-behaved, he won’t listen to us and stays out to all hours, we don’t know what he’s up to…what are _you_ going to do about it?”

He says that attitude isn’t uncommon. Its not a teachers job to inculcate good manners, discipline and respect for others into a child. That’s the parents job.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/63 "2013-11-23T22:51:00Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> So is there any food that everyone in the world has access to?

Rat turds.

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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/64 "2013-11-24T00:22:18Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> But that was precisely the message of the PB&J reference; that there are cultural differences among the students.

I think you missed the point. Most first and second generation immigrants have ties to the food service industry. Go to a Chinese restaurant sometime (especially one in a non-Asian area). Not only only are there Asian immigrants or second generation Asian Americans in the front of the house, but Hispanics or other first and second generation immigrants in the kitchen. Are you telling me that their children, being American educated, watching and listening to American entertainment don’t know what a sandwich is?

What I’m trying to say is to give the kids some credit. If you find that you’re teaching over their heads, back up and explain the terms.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/65 "2013-11-24T00:25:43Z")

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The white bread makes it racist. When’s the last time your kid ate PB&J on wheat??

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/66 "2013-11-24T22:50:13Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> When will idiots stop inventing racist and PC issues?

When other idiots stop paying attention to them (aka never).

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/67 "2013-11-25T07:13:07Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> [. . .] It was merely an example of something that a teacher used during a lesson, probably without a second thought, that teachers _might want to give a second thought to._
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> **It’s food for thought is all (heh).**

They need to be careful with that too. Food for thought isn’t well-known in some cultures.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/68 "2013-11-25T07:37:27Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> The white bread makes it racist. When’s the last time your kid ate PB&J on wheat??

I had peanut butter and jelly in a pita yesterday. I don’t know what the hell that makes me.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/69 "2013-11-25T08:19:44Z")

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Imagine that - I’d lived all my life without ever realising there was such a thing as a ‘list of racist foods’, but now I know. Now I know.

My coping strategy will be to not give a fuck about such a stupid idea as a list of racist foods.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/70 "2013-11-25T10:08:41Z")

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Tssk, PBJs aren’t racist, that’s just reading too much into foodstuffs, silly journalists.

Of course, they _are_ symbols of oppressive American global hegemonic imperialism!

😃

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/71 "2013-11-25T12:30:54Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Imagine that - I’d lived all my life without ever realising there was such a thing as a ‘list of racist foods’, but now I know. Now I know.

You know who like fried chicken?

Black people

You know who else likes fried chicken?

Everyone

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-down-that-pb-j-sandwich-you-racist/674554/72 "2013-11-25T14:57:36Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> You know who like fried chicken?
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> Black people
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> You know who else likes fried chicken?
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> Everyone

My aunt doesn’t like Fried Chicken. Are you calling her inhuman, you bigot?

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