# Put the white back in the White House **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587 "2012-10-13T02:23:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/21 "2012-10-13T15:51:20Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I did not! I wasn’t responding to you. I was responding to **RUserious**. The two posters I was referring to were **RUserious** and **burningchr0me**. I recognize you and you’ve obviously been around here a long time. Lots of misunderstandings in this thread for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/22 "2012-10-13T15:54:14Z")
Whooshes too. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/23 "2012-10-13T16:00:19Z")
> [@Jesus of Nazareth](#): > > I don’t think that was the OP’s complaint. I got the impression he was disturbed by the casual indifference of the rest of the crowd to the shirt than to the shirt itself. I was pitting the assclown wearing the t-shirt and the general mindset which I’m sure that he shares with some other Romney voters. As far as the crowd goes, some may agree with him, some may be afraid of him, some may just not want to create a scene, some may be strong free speech advocates, and many may not have even seen the back of his shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/24 "2012-10-13T16:02:44Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > What else would you expect from followers of a candidate like Mitt Romney who intentionally stokes the racist fires with ads that not only lie about the black president’s policy on Welfare waivers, but gins up racist hatred and resentment using an ad that tells white people (by _only_ depicting white people as the “workers”) that the black president wants to hand out checks to lazy people (read, other black people). Oh, good grief. Romney is not playing the race card. But racists like you are. " (read, other black people)" is such total bullshit. I would say shame on you, but if you had any concept of shame, you would not have posted that. ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/25 "2012-10-13T16:02:45Z")
My neighbor has a HUGE sign on her lawn that says, “I’d rather vote for a MORMON than a MUSLIM!” ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/26 "2012-10-13T16:08:33Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Oh, good grief. > > Romney is not playing the race card. But racists like you are. " (read, other black people)" is such total bullshit. I would say shame on you, but if you had any concept of shame, you would not have posted that. Code words, my friend. Read up on them, then listen to his off-script remarks. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/27 "2012-10-13T16:24:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Oh, good grief. > > Romney is not playing the race card. But racists like you are. " (read, other black people)" is such total bullshit. I would say shame on you, but if you had any concept of shame, you would not have posted that. [“Nobody asked to see my birth certificate.”](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/08/romney-michigan-nobody-asked-see-my-birth-certificate/56171/) > [@](#): > > He might not officially be a birther, but Mitt Romney knows how to play into that crowd’s conspiracies, as he showed at a rally in Michigan on Friday. Romney, standing alongside his wife Ann at campaign stop in Commerce, joked: “No one asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place that we were born and raised.” Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/28 "2012-10-13T16:51:47Z")
OMFG—among the supporters of Romney/Ryan there is at least one racist! Who would have guessed? In fact, I’m not even 100% sure that’s a racist message. 99.5% sure, yeah. If/when we live in a post-racist society, it’d be innocuous to identify or punnily support your candidate by some insignificant cosmetic trait that happens to distinguish them from their rival, like race or skin color—but of course we’re not there yet and may never be. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/29 "2012-10-13T17:24:59Z")
I believe there is still some debate on the question as to whether or not Mitt Romney is the whitest man in the world. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/30 "2012-10-13T17:56:56Z")
It’s interesting to see the people coming in here and trying to dismiss or minimize this assclown by attacking a strawman or suggesting that maybe the guy’s a plant or being ironic or something. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/31 "2012-10-13T18:00:35Z")
Can’t get worked up over anything this asinine. > [@elucidator](#): > > I believe there is still some debate on the question as to whether or not Mitt Romney is the whitest man in the world. The dancing horse thing works strongly in his favor. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/32 "2012-10-13T18:04:33Z")
I see Clothahump is still in denial about dog whistle campaigns. Surprised I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/33 "2012-10-13T18:11:23Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I’m certain it’s not an official t-shirt, and I _hope_ that they didn’t allow him into the rally. You mean THAT second line of the OP that says he’s certain it’s NOT an official t-shirt? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/34 "2012-10-13T18:20:00Z")
> [@camille](#): > > Randy Newman has a song out spoofing this mindset: > > [“I’m Dreaming (of a White President)”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvLeQbwuKys) Hilarious! One problem Randy Newman has (believe it or not, I once worked for him, just to drop a name) is his subtlety. If you take the lyrics at face value, and not tongue-in-cheek as I believe they were intended, you might think he was serious. This song falls in the same genre as _[Yellow Man](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkXeyNOBNeo)_ and _Short People._ ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/35 "2012-10-13T18:22:41Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You mean THAT second line of the OP that says he’s certain it’s NOT an official t-shirt? What’s funny is that I included that in the OP because I knew that people would come in here crying the obvious, that it’s not an official t-shirt. I figured I could forestall that by explicitly stating the obvious. Looks like it was a wasted effort. Although it did show who does and doesn’t bother to actually read an OP. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/36 "2012-10-13T18:24:16Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > What’s funny is that I included that in the OP because I knew that people would come in here crying the obvious, that it’s not an official t-shirt. I figured I could forestall that by explicitly stating the obvious. > > Looks like it was a wasted effort. Although it did show who does and doesn’t bother to actually read an OP. Read an OP?! In Elections?! ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/37 "2012-10-13T18:26:24Z")
I don’t suppose anyone remembers the 1972 film _The Man_ in which a black senator (James Earl Jones) succeeds to the presidency, whereupon one racist congressman grumbles “The White House ain’t near white enough for me tonight.” ---
**Author:** ![Gradivus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9f8e36/32.png) [@Gradivus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gradivus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/38 "2012-10-13T19:14:24Z")
Obviously, it’s not an official Romney/Ryan T-shirt. Yes, there are racists in the world, the First Amendment allows them to spew racist messages, and you can find them in every party. There are racist Obama supporters too: > **[Stacey Dash met with racist tweets after endorsing Romney](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/stacey-dash-defends-twitter-article-1.1177976)** > > “Clueless” actress Stacey Dash is rolling with Mitt Romney for President — remaining undeterred by the racially-based Twitter attacks against her. Frankly, since anyone with an IQ above 50, no matter how racist, would know wearing a shirt like this to a Romney rally would be picked up and used against Romney, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is an Obama “dirty tricks” squad member, as was done in the past, in Tea Party rallies for instance. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/39 "2012-10-13T19:28:52Z")
Seriously, if I have to choose between this guy being sincere and being a plant, sincere is the much more likely choice. We all know that there are people like that, so why hypothesize that some Obama supporter would do it to try to convince us of something we already know? Regarding the Stacey Dash thing, I suppose it’s relevant and equivalent to some right-wing minds that are desperate to show equivalence, but seriously, it’s not the same thing. Other blacks calling her a house slave for supporting Romney is racist how? It’s certainly inappropriate, but racist? Only to people desperate for equivalence. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587/40 "2012-10-13T19:41:57Z")
> [@Gradivus](#): > > Frankly, since anyone with an IQ above 50, no matter how racist, would know wearing a shirt like this to a Romney rally would be picked up and used against Romney, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is an Obama “dirty tricks” squad member, as was done in the past, in Tea Party rallies for instance. You know, most people don’t see themselves as the bad guy. Most people think their own beliefs are _right_, because they wouldn’t believe something that’s _wrong_. And a lot of people think that if they could just find the perfect way to express their opinion, they could get everyone else to admit that deep down they believe as they do, because, y’know, they’re _right_, even if nobody else wants to admit that. I have no trouble believing that an avowed racist would find that shirt very clever, and see nothing wrong with wearing it to a rally, because, after all, it’s the truth, if people would just see it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house/637587.md?page=3)