# Put your mouth where your mouth is!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 31, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462 "2012-10-31T17:37:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hellestal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hellestal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hellestal)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/61 "2012-11-02T09:54:16Z")

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> [@Klaatu](#):
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> I predicted Romney will win over 300 EV. For this bet call it 301. I will donate a hundred bucks to The favorite charity of one person if he gets less. If I win, that person will donate the same to my charity.

Accepted.

Better than accepted. I will in fact donate 200 dollars to your preferred charity if Romney makes 301 or better. You can donate 100 to Doctors Without Borders if Romney is 300 or less.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/62 "2012-11-02T13:52:03Z")

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If Obama loses I’ll head for six months (though six months from now I’ll be in the midst of my undergraduate dissertation hopefully, so I probably will be gone for longer).

Since I like Richard Parker’s idea, if Jill Stein loses and Obama wins then I’ll post the complete opposite of what I believe in as articulate a way as I can.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/63 "2012-11-02T15:54:50Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Maybe we’ll blame you. 😉 Since the mods are being mentioned I want to make it 100% clear that we will not do anything to uphold or enforce any bets that are made. If you think someone is not honoring the terms they accepted, tough luck. You can Pit them, of course, but don’t ask the staff to get involved. And posting to the wrong forum (and political hijacks in GQ especially) is strongly discouraged.

Wouldn’t expect you to. Any loser who reniged would be showing his true colors and that would be just as good if not better than silencing them for however long.

I was referring to wrong forum/political hijacking… the fun part would be seeing if that was moderated even-handedly. 😉

Not many (any?) takers though… perhaps that shouldn’t surprise me.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/64 "2012-11-02T16:12:55Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> If Obama loses I’ll head for six months

That’s … a little extreme but I guess whatever gets you through the day.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/65 "2012-11-02T16:16:48Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Not many (any?) takers though… perhaps that shouldn’t surprise me.

Why should it be surprising? It’s a close election. Most people on this board are rational enough not to believe in magical thinking.

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/66 "2012-11-02T16:18:18Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Who’s going to win… Obama or Romney? Losers agree to voluntarily suspend their activity on the SDMB for six months as follows:
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> 1 Voluntary suspension is limited to GD, Elections and The Pit.
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> 1. Voluntary suspension occurs after a seven day period in which the losers get a chance to whine and make excuses.

No, let’s _really_ put our money where our mouths are…

I offer you this wager, OP: if Romney wins, I pay you $200. If Obama wins, you pay me $100.

Are you prepared to make this bet?

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/67 "2012-11-02T16:34:51Z")

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For the elimination of doubt, and to promote clarity of response, let me add that this offer expires at 3 pm Central Time, Saturday, November 3, 2012. Acceptance to be made by a clear, affirmative response (e.g., “I take Kimmy Gibbler’s bet”) in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/68 "2012-11-02T17:01:41Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Not many (any?) takers though… perhaps that shouldn’t surprise me.

Are you willing to take **Kimmy Gibbler** ’s counter-bet? If not, perhaps that shouldn’t surprise me.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/69 "2012-11-02T17:32:20Z")

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I accept your terms, **WT?**

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/70 "2012-11-03T01:32:48Z")

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> [@Hellestal](#):
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> Accepted.
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> Better than accepted. I will in fact donate 200 dollars to your preferred charity if Romney makes 301 or better. You can donate 100 to Doctors Without Borders if Romney is 300 or less.

Ok, deal. Post over the weekend if you can, as will I and we can confirm how this will work.

Doctors Without Borders? Hell, I would donate to them anyway. Can you come up with some really far left wacko charity that will really piss me off if I lose? 😉

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/71 "2012-11-03T01:38:33Z")

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Klaatu, I will donate $200 to a charity of your choice if Romney gets over 300 EV as well, and you don’t even have to do anything for me.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/72 "2012-11-03T02:19:47Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Klaatu, I will donate $200 to a charity of your choice if Romney gets over 300 EV as well, and you don’t even have to do anything for me.

Very generous. The NRA…No, If Rom wins you can donate that 200 to Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/73 "2012-11-03T14:25:10Z")

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> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#):
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> For the elimination of doubt, and to promote clarity of response, let me add that this offer expires at 3 pm Central Time, Saturday, November 3, 2012. Acceptance to be made by a clear, affirmative response (e.g., “I take Kimmy Gibbler’s bet”) in this thread.

I take Kimmy Gibbler’s bet.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/74 "2012-11-03T14:26:14Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Are you willing to take **Kimmy Gibbler** ’s counter-bet? If not, perhaps that shouldn’t surprise me.

Surprise!!

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/75 "2012-11-03T14:29:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I accept your terms, **WT?**

OK … but what time period? How about Inauguration Day? I’d still like to see more players and that might be more palatable.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/76 "2012-11-03T16:48:12Z")

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I thought you said 7 days after the election

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/77 "2012-11-03T17:22:07Z")

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Seven days was the grace period to allow for whining and excuses.

The period of silence on GD, E and P was originally six months and then I proposed a shorter period.

Let’s go with it ending on inauguration day… OK??

Who else wants to play?? Every winner gets to select a loser to silence.

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/78 "2012-11-03T17:41:38Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> I take Kimmy Gibbler’s bet.

This post acknowledges the formation of a bet by and between **Kimmy\_Gibbler** (herein, “KG”) and **What the … !!!** (herein, “WT”) with the following terms:

[ul]  
[li]If Mitt Romney wins the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States, KG will pay $200 to WT.[/li]  
[li]If Barack Obama wins the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States, WT will pay $100 to KG.[/li]  
[li] Winning the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States shall be deemed to occur upon the earliest of the following:[/li]  
[LIST]  
[li]Final concession by either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama that their opponent has won the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States,[/li][li]Resolution of all lawful challenges to the results of the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States that may be raised in any governmental organ of the United States or the several States, or[/li][li]The inauguration of either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama as the President of the United States, expected to occur at some point in January 2013.[/li][/ul]

[li]Should any other person win the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States, this bet shall be annulled.[/li]  
[li]The parties to this bet shall privately exchange remittance information via SDMB private messaging. The parties agree that the information transmitted in pursuance thereof shall be kept confidential, including names and addresses.[/li]  
[li]The losing party may acknowledge submission of payment in this thread.[/li]  
[li]The winning party shall acknowledge receipt of payment in this thread. If, after January 31, 2013, the winning party has not received payment, the winning party may announce the delinquency in this thread. Such an announcement shall not be considered to excuse fulfillment of the bet.[/li][/LIST]

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/79 "2012-11-03T18:09:27Z")

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> [@Klaatu](#):
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> Very generous. The NRA…No, If Rom wins you can donate that 200 to Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund.

Ok, if Romney gets at least 300 electoral votes, I will donate $200.00 to the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and I’ll email or at least PM you the receipt to prove it. I’ll go by the count from the major networks and if Obama has conceded the election. No need to wait until the actual electoral vote, as far as I’m concerned.

I had never heard of this Fund before but I am a strong supporter of the US Military so I’ll be very happy to donate.

I’m also a strong supporter of 2nd amendment rights, so donating to the NRA wouldn’t be too bad either, although I think they are more of a shill of an operation these days than they used to be.

If Romney wins with 299 EV or less, then I will come here and go “neener neener” 😛

(I’m actually predicting a Romney victory myself, but a very slight one)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/80 "2012-11-03T18:45:41Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Ok, if Romney gets at least 300 electoral votes, I will donate $200.00 to the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and I’ll email or at least PM you the receipt to prove it.

InTrade currently has this event (Romney over 300 EV) at about 25% right now. Because of this difference in odds between intrade and your bet, you could arbitrage your risk, and pretty much come out on top no matter what.

Just saying…

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