# Put your mouth where your mouth is! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 31, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462 "2012-10-31T17:37:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/101 "2012-11-08T01:47:32Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > As if you didn’t have enough problems today, I’m giving you an official warning for this. You can’t insult other people outside the Pit. You’ve been here long enough to know that. What other problems? So “dick-wad” is an insult but his suggestion that I wouldn’t have the balls to accept the bet or pay off isn’t? I’m insulted by that. Plus…what does dick-wad even mean? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/102 "2012-11-08T02:14:23Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > What other problems? I’ll let you check the news on your own time. 😉 > [@](#): > > So “dick-wad” is an insult Yes. Unquestionably. Your comment about **Really Not All That Bright** was also insulting, come to think of it. > [@](#): > > but his suggestion that I wouldn’t have the balls to accept the bet or pay off isn’t? There was a lot of commentary like that in this thread. If he’d actually said you didn’t have the balls to honor the bet I might not have mod-noted him, but he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/103 "2012-11-08T02:37:10Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I’m kind of amused that in a thread that started with a claim that Obama supporters weren’t really as confident in an Obama victory as they claimed, we have those supporters arbitrarily raising the odds against themselves, or even just offering to pay money if Romney wins with no need for someone to take the other side. For me it was beyond a shadow of a doubt that Romney would not get 300+ EV, so it was really a meaningless gesture on my part, offering to pay money for an event I knew would not happen. I would have felt downright terrible if I actually expected to win money on such a thing. Now, where is Klaatu? And adaher for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/104 "2012-11-08T04:27:26Z")
See my new thread in elections ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/105 "2012-11-08T08:50:03Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’ll let you check the news on your own time. 😉 Oh, now I know what you were talking about. Since you were taking official action in that post I thought it had something to do with that. Just combining a little business with pleasure I guess. 😉 **Kimmy** … I haven’t received any info from you yet. **Lightnin** … please take note. I surely wouldn’t want you to have to not insult me any more. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/106 "2012-11-10T12:29:01Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > This post acknowledges the formation of a bet by and between **Kimmy\_Gibbler** (herein, “KG”) and **What the … !!!** (herein, “WT”) with the following terms: > > [ul] > [li]If Mitt Romney wins the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States, KG will pay $200 to WT.[/li] > [li]If Barack Obama wins the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States, WT will pay $100 to KG.[/li] > [li] Winning the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States shall be deemed to occur upon the earliest of the following:[/li] > [LIST] > [li]Final concession by either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama that their opponent has won the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States,[/li][li]Resolution of all lawful challenges to the results of the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States that may be raised in any governmental organ of the United States or the several States, or[/li][li]The inauguration of either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama as the President of the United States, expected to occur at some point in January 2013.[/li][/ul] > > [li]Should any other person win the 2012 election for the Presidency of the United States, this bet shall be annulled.[/li] > [li]The parties to this bet shall privately exchange remittance information via SDMB private messaging. The parties agree that the information transmitted in pursuance thereof shall be kept confidential, including names and addresses.[/li] > [li]The losing party may acknowledge submission of payment in this thread.[/li] > [li]The winning party shall acknowledge receipt of payment in this thread. If, after January 31, 2013, the winning party has not received payment, the winning party may announce the delinquency in this thread. Such an announcement shall not be considered to excuse fulfillment of the bet.[/li][/LIST] I’m looking for the clause whereby if \*\*Kimmy \*\*doesn’t send me her info by a certain time then I don’t have to pay. **Lightnin** … what do you think of that?? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/107 "2012-11-10T12:44:43Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I’m looking for the clause whereby if \*\*Kimmy \*\*doesn’t send me her info by a certain time then I don’t have to pay. > > **Lightnin** … what do you think of that?? Do you \*seriously \*need validation for paying your loss? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/108 "2012-11-10T19:05:29Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Really\*\* proved to be **Not All That Bright** or that confident in his man. I don’t think we ever had an understanding. You _are_ joking, right? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/109 "2012-11-11T14:38:34Z")
**Lightnin** … I don’t know exactly what you are suggesting but it has been wrong each time so you can either go away or be more clear. Either way. **Really** (and anyone else who isn’t all that bright) … my offer was a bet; not a vow. If you and I had an agreement on the terms please point it out to me. **SlackerInc** … you and I did have a bet although the time period was not crystal clear. I will honor whatever your understanding of that time period was. Just LMK. I may however unilaterally tweak the bet just a tad. I reserve the right to continue posting in this thread only as long as I’m being personally insulted. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/110 "2012-11-11T15:29:41Z")
You’ve no reason to weasel out of your bet with Kimmy. There’s lots of time left before the inauguration. You lost. Get your money ready. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/111 "2012-11-11T17:29:19Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I’m looking for the clause whereby if \*\*Kimmy \*\*doesn’t send me her info by a certain time then I don’t have to pay. I am looking how to anonymize the transaction. Let’s set a deadline of Nov. 30 for exchange of info. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/112 "2012-11-11T22:00:19Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > **Lightnin** … I don’t know exactly what you are suggesting but it has been wrong each time so you can either go away or be more clear. Either way. You keep bringing me up by name- and like the devil, I tend to show up whenever someone says my name. If you don’t want me in this thread, _quit calling me out_. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/113 "2012-11-12T13:04:26Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > You keep bringing me up by name- and like the devil, I tend to show up whenever someone says my name. If you don’t want me in this thread, _quit calling me out_. You stuck your nose into my business (with insults in excess of throwing out a silly little “dickwad”) twice before I called out your name. Look it up. **Kimmy** … don’t worry about any deadline. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/114 "2012-11-12T16:24:35Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > **Really** (and anyone else who isn’t all that bright) … my offer was a bet; not a vow. If you and I had an agreement on the terms please point it out to me. Okay: > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I accept your terms, **WT?** ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/115 "2012-11-12T18:29:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Okay: Go to posts #72-74 on 11/3 and another on 11/5 where I tried to get you to clarify what your understanding of the bet was. You never responded despite other posts in this thread during that time period. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/116 "2012-11-12T20:08:35Z")
I said I accepted your terms. You can pick whatever grace period you like. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/117 "2012-11-13T08:26:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I said I accepted your terms. You can pick whatever grace period you like. Nice try but the period in question was the duration of the silence which varied from 6 months to 3 months to up till inauguration day. The period for whining and excuses was always 7 days. Too bad you ignored my request to make it clear. **SlackerInc** did take the bet so I’ll be away for a while any way. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/118 "2012-11-13T15:31:04Z")
Well, at least you’re only partially a welcher then. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/119 "2012-11-13T16:02:34Z")
I propose we place bets on who wins the argument about whether he’s a welcher. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462/120 "2012-11-14T01:30:11Z")
I award judgment to “What the…” on the accusation by RNATB of welching. The purpose of this board is fighting ignorance and the purpose of these informal wagers is the same. That means you have to get your ts crossed and i’s dotted. What the… has demonstrated a willingness to do this. My review of the record suggests that indeed, RNATB did not reply to this: > [@What\_the](#): > > Seven days was the grace period to allow for whining and excuses. > > The period of silence on GD, E and P was originally six months and then I proposed a shorter period. > > Let’s go with it ending on inauguration day.. OK?? > > Who else wants to play?? Every winner gets to select a loser to silence. …though RNATB _did_ participate in this thread after it was posted. You need a formal offer and a formal acknowledgment. RNATB did not deliver. Others did: formal precedent includes _Kimmy vs What the…_ I declare judgment for What the… and furthermore order that all attorney fees get paid by the plaintiff. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/put-your-mouth-where-your-mouth-is/639462.md?page=7)