# Q: What is Something That One of Ann Coulter Friends IS, But Edwards ISN'T?

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**Created:** [March 8, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056 "2007-03-08T03:39:47Z")
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### Author: ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/1 "2007-03-08T03:39:47Z")

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[If you said, “Gay porn star and part time gigolo,” you’re right! 😃](http://www.kxmb.com/getARticle.asp?ArticleId=101962)

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> But Sanchez’ face tinkled a few gay bells out there in fairyland, and last night I began to get emails letting me know that his rather late appearance on the Ivy League scene was because Sanchez has had a lengthy career in gay porn, working under the names Rod Majors (NSFW) and Pierre LaBranche, starring in such art films as Jawbreaker, Donkey Dick, and Glory Holes Of Fame 3, where his “11-inch uncut monster cock” earned him a devoted following.

Don’t they screen these people before they parade them in front of the media?

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### Author: ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
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Finding flaws and hypocrisy and whatnot in Coulter’s work is pointless - she’s not and has never been a presenter of factual information, but rather zany feelgood sloganeering for a particular audience and when challenged after saying something zany, her typical response is to say something even _more_ zany.

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### Author: ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/3 "2007-03-08T03:59:26Z")

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The winner of the [Jeane Kirkpatrick Academic Freedom Award](http://www.cpac.org/agenda_30207.html).

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Sadly, this “Jeane Kirkpatrick Academic Freedom Award” appears to be something CPAC made up just for its latest meeting. Google only returns [7 hits on it](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=rb9&q=%22Jeane+Kirkpatrick+Academic+Freedom+Award%22&btnG=Search). Well it _sounds_ Impressive.

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### Author: ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/5 "2007-03-08T04:24:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Finding flaws and hypocrisy and whatnot in Coulter’s work is pointless - she’s not and has never been a presenter of factual information, but rather zany feelgood sloganeering for a particular audience and when challenged after saying something zany, her typical response is to say something even _more_ zany.  
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Calling someone a faggot is _zany_? Is that the best you can do?

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/6 "2007-03-08T04:37:07Z")

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Well, I’ve gotta confess this makes no particular difference in what I think of Ms. Coulter, since in general my only thoughts regarding her have been of the “wishing into the cornfield” variety. Not with any success, obviously.

That’s one mighty crappy blog, btw. You can practically hear the the author grunting at the keyboard as he lays on the salacious details of Cpl. Sanchez’ previous career, then immediately blames any ‘big deal’ that may result on unnamed members of ‘the left’, whatever that is.

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### Author: ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/7 "2007-03-08T04:45:18Z")

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Perhaps he’s the eponymous Cpl. “Dirty” Sanchez.

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### Author: ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)
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I’ve seen this guy here and there. Near as I can tell, he’s been shocked to find that some assholes on a major college campus are not that fond of the military, and he’s been going on about it on the professional victim circuit for the last several months. [Here’s his article in the _NY Post_ from December.](http://www.nypost.com/seven/12042006/postopinion/opedcolumnists/diversity_double_talkivys_inclusion_excludes_military_opedcolumnists_matt_sanchez.htm?page=0)

If this all turns out to be true–and if it weren’t, I think he would have denied it about ten minutes after it hit the blogs–does it preclude him from serving in the military? I’ve never been clear on just “how gay” one has to be–if he claimed that he’s actually straight and he just made the movies for the money, would that get him out of trouble?

Meanwhile, I’m not sure which name I like better–Rod Majors or Pierre LaBranche.

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Calling someone a faggot is _zany_? Is that the best you can do?  
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I think it perfectly captures the seriousness of the issue. She succeeds with her audience (as well as gaining the attention of her critics) because she’s willing to resort to immature shock value to get attention, rather like a child screaming in a mall. Getting outraged by anything she does gives her more credit than she deserves.

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
I think it perfectly captures the seriousness of the issue. She succeeds with her audience (as well as gaining the attention of her critics) because she’s willing to resort to immature shock value to get attention, rather like a child screaming in a mall. Getting outraged by anything she does gives her more credit than she deserves.  
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Yeah, she’s not to be taken seriously by thinking humans, but to call anything she says “zany” or “feelgood” minimizes the fact that she has a huge audience of people who cheer for her hateful shit. It would be funny, I guess, in some bizarro world, if it weren’t fucking scary.

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/11 "2007-03-08T05:55:59Z")

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He has an 11 inch uncut cock and the gays remembered his _face_? Yeah right.

[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
If this all turns out to be true–and if it weren’t, I think he would have denied it about ten minutes after it hit the blogs–does it preclude him from serving in the military? I’ve never been clear on just “how gay” one has to be–if he claimed that he’s actually straight and he just made the movies for the money, would that get him out of trouble?  
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As I understand DADT, if he says he’s straight and just engaged in sex with men for money then he could not be discharged under DADT. He would, however, be subject to prosecution under the UCMJ, which still criminalizes sodomy. It is unclear whether Lawrence v Texas, which struck down all other sodomy laws in the country, applies to the UCMJ, because the courts traditionally give great deference to military laws and regulations. Presumably he could also be prosecuted for conduct unbecoming a Marine, prostitution and I’m sure the Marines could find enough other charges to put him in Leavenworth for a good long stretch (assuming he was in the military when all this happened and any statute of limitations had not barred prosecution.

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#### Post date: [March 8, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/q-what-is-something-that-one-of-ann-coulter-friends-is-but-edwards-isnt/395056/12 "2007-03-08T05:57:11Z")

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If this all turns out to be true–and if it weren’t, I think he would have denied it about ten minutes after it hit the blogs  
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He has written a [Salon article](http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/03/08/matt_sanchez/) confirming it a day after it hit the blogs(probably have to watch an ad). It also confirms someone needs to get his ass to a rhetoric class, stat:

> [@Cpl Sanchez](#):
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> Well, porn is just … porn. Self-explanatory and without depth. The pictures do the talking, and however many pictures there may be in video stores or warehouses or online, they still don’t have anything interesting to say. I am concerned, though, that they may make some people feel inadequate. As a conservative, I like to insist on equal opportunity, even if some do start off with more than others.

WTF? “Don’t hate me because I allude to having a big cock?” 😕

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
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Sanchez responded to some emailed question [here](http://joemygod.blogspot.com/).

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
He has an 11 inch uncut cock and the gays remembered his _face_? Yeah right.  
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More importantly, did that inspire them to vote Republican? (I don’t want to know the answer to questions involving salutes.) Supposedly, he’s claimed that he “didn’t make a very good gay” whatever that means. (Poor fashion sense? Unable to appreciate show tunes? Struck out with Liza Minelli?)

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> He has written a Salon article confirming it a day after it hit the blogs(probably have to watch an ad).

Sweet Zombie Jesus! If there were a Professional Whiny Victims Tour, this guy would be its Tiger Woods.

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
She succeeds with her audience (as well as gaining the attention of her critics) because she’s willing to resort to immature shock value to get attention, rather like a child screaming in a mall.  
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And a part of her audience posts to the SDMB. Like you say, she is looking for whatever attention she can get. She’s like Fred Phelps and Jack Chick - I can rely on my fellow Dopers to let me know when she does something outrageous.

It’s too bad - some of her stuff is funny, and it almost has to be disregarded.

Regards,  
Shodan

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Ann Coulter, in and of herself, isn’t a problem any more than Fred Phelps is a problem. There are lots of nutballs in the world.

The problem is when supposedly respectable outfits give the nutballs a platform. Up until now, Coulter has been treated like a mildly outrageous _enfant terrible_ by the mainstream media - one has the sense that they see her as a rightwing James Carville, rather than as a totally unhinged crazy whose purpose in life is to make money by preaching hate and prejudice.

And of course up until now, many right-of-center organizations and persons of stature have heartily embraced her.

These are the people who enable Coulter to have an audience. If she was selling her books over the Internet to a coterie of rabid fans, but got no publicity assist from anyone else, that would be great. But as others have observed, it seems there’s nothing the wingnuts can say that will keep them from getting invited back as talking heads on the cable news/opinion networks.

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
Ann Coulter, in and of herself, isn’t a problem any more than Fred Phelps is a problem. There are lots of nutballs in the world.

The problem is when supposedly respectable outfits give the nutballs a platform. Up until now, Coulter has been treated like a mildly outrageous _enfant terrible_ by the mainstream media - one has the sense that they see her as a rightwing James Carville, rather than as a totally unhinged crazy whose purpose in life is to make money by preaching hate and prejudice.

And of course up until now, many right-of-center organizations and persons of stature have heartily embraced her.  
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This is the only thing I have against her (not her personally, but her as a phenomenon). I thought it was really disingenuous for Giuliani to denounce her over those comments. She’s said worse things in the past, and has never apologized for them, and he still chose to come speak at CPAC when he knew she would be speaking. Was anyone really surprised that Ann Coulter is throwing “faggot” around?

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### Author: ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)
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I’m not sure what exactly the point of the OP is.

Is the complaint that Ann Coulter has gay friends, and in real life doesn’t have anything against gay people, and that her whole schtick is just a show put on for the rubes?

Next you’ll tell me that the Village People were totally gay, man.

Ann Coulter has two audiences. The first layer is really dumb conservatives. Apparently such people do exist, otherwise CPAC wouldn’t have invited her to speak. The second and most important layer are the TV shows that book her because she’ll say something shocking and give everyone a case of the vapors.

On the one hand, Ann Coulter’s schtick is just an act. On the other hand, she really is a major league asshole, not because she believes her schtick, but because she DOESN’T believe it but says it anyway.

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
I’m not sure what exactly the point of the OP is.

Is the complaint that Ann Coulter has gay friends, and in real life doesn’t have anything against gay people, and that her whole schtick is just a show put on for the rubes?  
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Way to _not_ read the thread, man. Dude isn’t “merely” gay, dude is a **gay porn star and prostitute!** That, IMHO, puts a whole new spin on things.

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> Next you’ll tell me that the Village People were totally gay, man.
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> Ann Coulter has two audiences. The first layer is really dumb conservatives. Apparently such people do exist, otherwise CPAC wouldn’t have invited her to speak. The second and most important layer are the TV shows that book her because she’ll say something shocking and give everyone a case of the vapors.
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> On the one hand, Ann Coulter’s schtick is just an act. On the other hand, she really is a major league asshole, not because she believes her schtick, but because she DOESN’T believe it but says it anyway.

How can you be certain that Ann _doesn’t_ believe her schtick?

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