# Qadgop - you may need to start a new 12-step program
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [January 16, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304 "2016-01-16T03:52:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/1 "2016-01-16T03:52:25Z")
[Cheese triggers the same part of the brain as hard drugs, say scientists](http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/foodanddrink/cheese-triggers-the-same-part-of-the-brain-as-hard-drugs-say-scientists-a3141936.html)
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> Using the Yale Food Addiction Scale, designed to measure a person’s cravings, the study found that cheese is particularly moreish because it contains casein.
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> The chemical, which is found in all dairy products, can trigger the brain’s opioid receptors, producing a feeling of euphoria linked to those of hard drug addiction.
StG
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/2 "2016-01-16T04:25:20Z")
Anything that makes people happy triggers those parts of the brain. I don’t know why they’re singling out cheese.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/3 "2016-01-16T04:33:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> Anything that makes people happy triggers those parts of the brain. I don’t know why they’re singling out cheese.
Because it’s lovely.
The bible tells us so.
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### Author:  [@mind\_the\_gap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mind_the_gap)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/4 "2016-01-16T04:43:39Z")
I’ve been trying to figure out why Wallace (of Wallace and Gromit fame) acts so goofy. The cheese/opiate receptor thing explains a lot. 😃
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### Author:  [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/5 "2016-01-16T04:57:27Z")
Now we need a study on oat groats to round out the Qadgop food addition story.
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/6 "2016-01-16T05:00:40Z")
Oh, Oh.
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> Study author Erica Schulte said: \*\*“If properties of some foods are associated with addictive eating for some people, this may impact nutrition guidelines, as well as public policy initiatives such as marketing these foods to children.”
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> Nicole Avena, a co-author on the study, said: "This is a first step towards identifying specific foods, and properties of foods, which can trigger this addictive response.
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> “This could help change the way we approach obesity treatment. It may not be a simple matter of ‘cutting back’ on certain foods, but rather, adopting methods used to curtail smoking, drinking and drug use.”
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> The news comes after it was revealed that the average person is estimated to eat around 35 pounds of cheese a year - suggesting that it really as addictive as research claims.
We really need to end the war on drugs or we all will be sent to prison.
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### Author:  [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/7 "2016-01-16T05:25:37Z")
Does this mean we can use a “cheese defense” in court if we knock over a deli?
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### Author:  [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/8 "2016-01-16T06:13:36Z")
I’ve known this my whole life.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/9 "2016-01-16T11:13:24Z")
35 pounds a year works out to about 1.5 ounces per day, or around 42 grams. A bit over two slices (which would be around 1.2 ounces)
That’s considered addiction? What?
Anyhow, I’m not addicted to cheese, I can quit anytime.
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### Author:  [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/10 "2016-01-16T11:28:54Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> 35 pounds a year works out to about 1.5 ounces per day, or around 42 grams. A bit over two slices (which would be around 1.2 ounces)
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> That’s considered addiction? What?
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> Anyhow, I’m not addicted to cheese, I can quit anytime.
You wouldn’t need 42 grams a day even if you are hot railing it.
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### Author:  [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/11 "2016-01-16T11:49:56Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> You wouldn’t need 42 grams a day even if you are hot railing it.
Is that when you do it with one of these?
[ ](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91iE67VoXJL._SL1500_.jpg)
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/12 "2016-01-16T14:59:16Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Because it’s lovely.
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> The bible tells us so.
Oh, what a friend we have in cheeses.
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### Author:  [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/13 "2016-01-16T15:06:41Z")
As Tony Hendra once told us, “Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese, and reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Milwaukee.”
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### Author:  [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/14 "2016-01-16T16:14:14Z")
Food is addictive. News at 11.
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### Author:  [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/15 "2016-01-16T16:55:01Z")
If my work ever starts random cheese testing I’m in huge trouble.
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### Author:  [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/16 "2016-01-16T18:17:19Z")
> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Oh, what a friend we have in cheeses.
I thought it was “Blessed are the cheesemakers”.
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### Author:  [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/17 "2016-01-16T18:58:32Z")
Well, obviously it’s not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturer of dairy products.
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### Author:  [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/18 "2016-01-16T19:10:44Z")
Basically, anything that’s good is either addictive, or causes cancer. Or both.
Enjoying things is bad for you, but enjoyment is good, so I guess one has to learn to enjoy not enjoying things.
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### Author:  [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/19 "2016-01-16T20:33:15Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> I guess one has to learn to enjoy not enjoying things.
That’s why some people claim to like Brussels Sprouts and exercise.
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### Author:  [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qadgop-you-may-need-to-start-a-new-12-step-program/743304/20 "2016-01-16T20:43:41Z")
> [@Muffin](#):
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> Food is addictive. News at 11.
Well, yeah, everyone knows bread is addictive ( [The Dangers of Bread | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/bread.asp)).
I’m a vegetarian. I eat dairy. I know this is an inconsistent half-measure of a philosophy. If I care about animal welfare, I should be a vegan.
But…cheese. It’s one of the last remaining joys in my life. I won’t give it up! You can’t make me!!
Cheese. ::mumbling sadly::: Cheese.
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