# QAnon Shaman claims to be the rightful president **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 30, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504 "2025-09-30T00:19:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/1 "2025-09-30T00:19:32Z")
At this point, I say might as well give him a try. > Arizona resident Jacob Chansley, better known to America as the QAnon shaman who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 in a striking horned warrior outfit, is suing a host of entities – including the federal government and President Donald Trump – for $40 trillion. In the process, the Phoenix resident is claiming that he is the rightful leader of the United States. > > In a rambling, 26-page complaint that consists of a single paragraph and reads like a manifesto, Chansley alleges that his First, Fourth and Second Amendment rights have been violated by a host of parties that are loosely related at best. Named as defendants are Trump, the Federal Reserve, the National Security Agency, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, the state of Israel, Elon Musk’s X Corp., T-Mobile, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and Warner Bros. Studios. > **[QAnon Shaman says he's rightful president, sues Trump for $40 trillion](https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/phoenix-qanon-shaman-files-40-trillion-lawsuit-against-trump-22763479/)** > > In a rambling complaint, Jacob Chansley claims DJs are spies, that the NSA stole his work for a Batman movie and more. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/2 "2025-09-30T00:28:11Z")
Sounds legit to me. How much worse could he be? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/3 "2025-09-30T00:28:18Z")
Well, he could hardly be worse. ETA: Ninjaed ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/4 "2025-09-30T00:34:55Z")
I am _shocked_ to hear that one of the January 6 rioters is nuts; they all seemed so rational and level-headed. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/5 "2025-09-30T00:34:59Z")
We hardly hear about QAnon any more. Think MAGA considers him a dinosaur? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/6 "2025-09-30T00:41:54Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Well, he could hardly be worse. Still less odious than Ted Cruz, and makes more sense than J.D. Vance. I say give him a shot…minus the nuclear launch authority, of course. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/7 "2025-09-30T00:45:41Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > Sounds legit to me. How much worse could he be? > [@Voyager](#): > > Well, he could hardly be worse. Me threepio. 👍🏽 ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/8 "2025-09-30T00:49:34Z")
Did he actually find a lawyer who could lose their license over such a frivolous suit? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/9 "2025-09-30T00:50:14Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > Sounds legit to me. How much worse could he be? NEVER ASK THAT!!! Possibly a more suitable quote is from Hank Hill of _King of the Hill_: [Koth King GIF - KOTH King Of - Discover & Share GIFs](https://tenor.com/view/koth-king-of-the-hill-gif-25004340) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/10 "2025-09-30T00:51:45Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Did he actually find a lawyer who could lose their license over such a frivolous suit? Do you really think a lawyer was responsible for “a rambling, 26-page complaint that consists of a single paragraph and reads like a manifesto?” ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/11 "2025-09-30T01:00:19Z")
Shrooms are a hell of a drug. Still, better than trump. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/12 "2025-09-30T01:10:06Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > We hardly hear about QAnon any more. Think MAGA considers him a dinosaur? Surely they think of him as a bison. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/13 "2025-09-30T01:35:55Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Do you really think a lawyer was responsible for “a rambling, 26-page complaint that consists of a single paragraph and reads like a manifesto?” I know, right? As a proper lawyer, _my_ single paragraph manifesto is well over one hundred pages long, and it gets longer all the time. For now I have your transgressions to add to it, as well as QAnon Shaman’s (for falsely claiming an office that is mine by rights). And if that’s not crazy enough for you, please consider also that my manifesto is written on 8.5x14 inch paper (know also as _legal_, like a proper lawyer’s rambling, d’uh). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/14 "2025-09-30T01:41:11Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Warner Bros. Studios. Wait…is Wile E. Coyote part of this conspiracy? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/15 "2025-09-30T01:41:39Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > my manifesto is written on 8.5x14 inch paper AIUI, if shit ain’t written on LEGAL-sized paper, then it just plain ain’t _LEGAL_, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/16 "2025-09-30T01:48:26Z")
In blood or at least red ink . . . but the finger print has to be in blood. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/17 "2025-09-30T04:10:21Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Think MAGA considers him a dinosaur? Why would they consider that an insult? Don’t they believe dinosaurs walk among us now? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/18 "2025-09-30T04:13:11Z")
Moderating: Belongs in P&E, so I’m moving it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/19 "2025-09-30T04:42:32Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > We hardly hear about QAnon any more. There’s not really a need anymore since the whole party absorbed making everything into an absurd conspiracy. The republican party is basically qanon at this point. Anyway, let him be president and award him the 40 trillion dollars, I want to see if the world gets any stupider ---
**Author:** ![BrieSpice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@BrieSpice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrieSpice)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504/20 "2025-09-30T05:05:52Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > and Warner Bros. Studios. Did the Loyal Order of Water Buffalo infringe on his head-wear trademark? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qanon-shaman-claims-to-be-the-rightful-president/1023504.md?page=2)