# Qatar should withdraw their World Cup bid **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\ **Created:** [April 12, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574 "2012-04-12T16:25:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/81 "2014-06-02T11:06:46Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Change won’t happen if countries pull out - change will happen if \*advertisers \*pull out. Agreed - but if all the best nations are involved in a Fifa tournament, then people will watch it (because, whilst a lot of people are not happy with the corruption in the awarding of the tournament, it’s not stopping them wanting to watch the matches), which in turn means advertisers will want to advertise to those eyeballs, so they’re not pulling out either. This is why my preferred options are the ones I outlined - a) pull out of the best nations (thus moving interest to the Year Zero World Cup and out of Fifa’s purview) or b) legal smashing of Fifa. I’d love to see a legal smashing of Fifa, the more I think about it. Put them all in the dock. It would be brilliant - though I suspect rather a waste of legal time and money that could be put to better but much less high profile use. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/82 "2014-06-02T12:58:05Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Russia is a different matter. One could make a decent case for it to host. Still, I fully expect that they too bribed their way to victory but in their case they get further with a wad of cash and gun than with just a wad of cash (to paraphrase “The Untouchables” ). Corrupt, and just as ugly as the Qatari bid but as yet no smoking gun (or decaying polonium) and their claim on the tournament passes the sniff-test so I don’t expect too much change to that. I think the best thing for everyone is to let 2018 continue. The Russians know how to get bribes done, so there’s probably not much to find. And either way, they’re capable of hosting a decent World Cup. It’s entirely believable that they could have been the best option. With Qatar it’s another matter, and as time goes by their ability to host isn’t becoming any less questionable. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/83 "2014-06-09T11:14:47Z")
Sounds like the sponsors are starting to get a little twitchy… > **[Brazil, Qatar still cause FIFA problems](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37367477/brazil-qatar-continue-cause-fifa-problems)** ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/84 "2014-09-22T18:51:49Z")
Chatter about the Cup being moved from Qatar: [Qatar will not host 2022 World Cup: FIFA official](http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/qatar-will-not-host-2022-world-cup-fifa-official-1.2773943) But being promptly denied, with FIFA only saying that they’re looking to moving it to the winter, but still in Qatar: [Qatar World Cup move claims dismissed](http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/international/2014/0922/645481-qatar/) ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/85 "2014-09-22T19:05:28Z")
The more people try to talk about the WC 2022 moving, the more FIFA will double down. That’s kind of what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/86 "2014-11-13T14:32:16Z")
Bumping this, based on the release of FIFA’s “summary” of the Garcia report. Well, well, what to say? Russia seems incapable of backing up their work or accessing their Gmail accounts which seems strange. England and Australia were totally open and of course are the main target of FIFA’s concerns Spain and Portugal didn’t co-operate at all so escape any criticism. No concerns with Qatar at all apparently, nothing to see here, move along. Of course the biggest news is that a) the full report is not going to be published…so how exactly can one judge if the criticisms are justified or not? b) Michael Garcia has just commented on the summary of his report that was published by a judge (appointed by FIFA) and he says that it… > [@](#): > > contains numerous materially incomplete and erroneous representations of the facts. I intend to appeal this decision to the FIFA Appeal Committee Which is pretty much a straightforward accusation that the summary is bollocks. But hold…it is OK. he’ll get chance to voice his concerns to the FIFA appeals committee, this committee is appointed by the FIFA executive committee, the same committee that have have serious allegations hanging over them regarding the bidding process and who may well be mentioned in the full report…no conflict of interest there then! This one will run and run, [the Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2014/nov/13/fifa-world-cup-ethics-committee-report-2018-2022-live-reaction) are keeping on top of this nicely ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/87 "2014-11-13T14:49:19Z")
At the end of the day,so bloody what. FIFA is a private organisation, as are many of the Football associations. The World Cup is a private affair. If the WC was given the Qatar and Russia because the FIFA executive liked their Hor Devours and call girls better than that of England, so bloody what? Its a private not a public event. Its not like England is going to boycott the competition. If you don’t like it, stay home and don’t watch. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/88 "2014-11-13T15:34:12Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > At the end of the day,so bloody what. FIFA is a private organisation, as are many of the Football associations. The World Cup is a private affair. If the WC was given the Qatar and Russia because the FIFA executive liked their Hor Devours and call girls better than that of England, so bloody what? Its a private not a public event. Its not like England is going to boycott the competition. If you don’t like it, stay home and don’t watch. Well that’s a view certainly, personally I think corruption does matter and if you don’t try to expose it and do something about it then it festers and spreads. Soon enough it’ll affect something that does matter to you. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/89 "2014-11-13T15:48:05Z")
Also, by only kinda following the story, Quatar’s heat poses a legitimate danger to Soccer’s players since a death has already happened there and the promises of air conditioning or whatever are assumed to not be held to ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/90 "2014-11-13T17:08:02Z")
It should be boycotted in protest of the rampant use of slave/indentured labor in constructing the facilities. ---
**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/91 "2014-11-13T18:54:17Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > But hold…it is OK. he’ll get chance to voice his concerns to the FIFA appeals committee, this committee is appointed by the FIFA executive committee, the same committee that have have serious allegations hanging over them regarding the bidding process and who may well be mentioned in the full report…no conflict of interest there then! To quote John Oliver: I call dingo. Dingo. Dingo. Dingo. Dingo. Dingo. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/92 "2014-11-13T19:43:34Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > It should be boycotted in protest of the rampant use of slave/indentured labor in constructing the facilities. That alone, not to mention that thousands of them have died. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/93 "2014-11-13T20:59:32Z")
I think we should all feel ashamed for having falsely impugned the Qatari bid! Clean as a whistle it was! ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/94 "2014-11-13T22:07:37Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > At the end of the day,so bloody what. FIFA is a private organisation, as are many of the Football associations. The World Cup is a private affair. If the WC was given the Qatar and Russia because the FIFA executive liked their Hor Devours and call girls better than that of England, so bloody what? Its a private not a public event. Its not like England is going to boycott the competition. If you don’t like it, stay home and don’t watch. What a mystifying rant. I’d rather liken it to exercising our voice as consumers of football, much like those Sheffield United fans calling for their club not to sign Ched Evans. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/95 "2014-11-14T03:56:59Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > What a mystifying rant. I’d rather liken it to exercising our voice as consumers of football, much like those Sheffield United fans calling for their club not to sign Ched Evans. A “rant”? Tell me, if the WC2022 is held in Qatar, are you not going to watch it? Yeah did’nt think so. The way to exercise your voice as consumers is not to partake in the event, making it commercially unviable. Of course that’s not going to happen and even if it does, it’s going to be limited to white, western fans, who are these days a small amount of the total anyway. ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/96 "2014-11-14T05:42:03Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > A “rant”? Tell me, if the WC2022 is held in Qatar, are you not going to watch it? Yeah did’nt think so. The way to exercise your voice as consumers is not to partake in the event, making it commercially unviable. Of course that’s not going to happen and even if it does, it’s going to be limited to white, western fans, who are these days a small amount of the total anyway. Or register your protests with the event’s sponsors and encourage them to let their wallets do the talking. I imagine FIFA would be much more inclined to listen to a pissed off Coca Cola or McDonald’s than Joe Blow from Leicester, not that those corporations would ever bother to do more than send a sternly worded letter. At this point, I’m just hoping Garcia “accidentally” forgets a real copy of his report in Theo Zwanziger’s bathroom and then it mysteriously winds up in Der Spiegel. I know the report will change nothing about FIFA’s behavior because they don’t care, but I still want it leaked. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/97 "2014-11-14T10:19:37Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > A “rant”? Tell me, if the WC2022 is held in Qatar, are you not going to watch it? Yeah did’nt think so. The way to exercise your voice as consumers is not to partake in the event, making it commercially unviable. Of course that’s not going to happen and even if it does, it’s going to be limited to white, western fans, who are these days a small amount of the total anyway. I quite possibly would not. I refused to have any dealings with Coventry City when they moved to Northampton. I didn’t even follow their scores online. Just because you may not have willpower, or the courage of your own convictions, don’t assume that others don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/98 "2014-11-14T13:13:38Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > A “rant”? Tell me, if the WC2022 is held in Qatar, are you not going to watch it? Yeah did’nt think so. The way to exercise your voice as consumers is not to partake in the event, making it commercially unviable. Of course that’s not going to happen and even if it does, it’s going to be limited to white, western fans, who are these days a small amount of the total anyway. I don’t think “partake” or “not partake” are our only choices. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/99 "2019-02-27T18:38:27Z")
I’m sure that I’m late to the party, but now that the 2018 cup has passed, I figure we might have a better perspective. Looks like despite it being a ludicrous idea FIFA has agreed to move the cup to begin in November. Leagues around the world are being pressured to push their winter breaks to match up with the Cup. I thought Qatar got the bid under the specific stipulation that this wouldn’t be necessary? And so much for air conditioned stadiums, OR for “traditional” cooling techniques. Looks like they’re building at least some of the stadiums out of… shipping containers? > **[What do we know about Qatar 2022? - BBC Sport](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46294929.amp)** > > In four years' time, the Qatar World Cup will be under way - but what do we know so far about the tournament? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574/100 "2019-02-28T15:14:44Z")
November is going to just be an awful time to stage a World Cup if you’re still trying to grow the game in the USA. The World Series will have just ended but college and pro football will be in full swing and the NHL and NBA will also be in season with college basketball getting underway also. Plus, the weather in a lot of the USA won’t be conducive for outdoor watch parties. Dumb, dumb, and just dumb. But, if they’re going to yank the cup from Qatar, it’s about time FIFA did so, those bribe checks have already cleared. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qatar-should-withdraw-their-world-cup-bid/618574.md?page=6)