# Qin Curtis Shi Lemay Huangdi is a FAKE?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 1, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061 "2012-01-01T18:05:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/1 "2012-01-01T18:05:35Z")

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> [@Born & Raised & Living in the USA: If you DESPISED the USA, How would you destroy it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-raised-living-in-the-usa-if-you-despised-the-usa-how-would-you-destroy-it/607491/76):
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> On the contrary, the US government along with all other governments has been ordained by God to maintain order and peace in this world. And America has been far more successful at it than anybody else.
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> Anyways its quite simple to destroy America: just make Noam Chomsky President.

This is so bizarre it crosses over into obvious parody territory. Noam Chomsky? Really? That’s the great enemy?

Man, you had me all this time, Curtis. I really thought you were just a bright, young, misguided Korean-American kid. But this is just too left field.

OK, maybe not. You’d almost have to be in junior high to think that made sense. The mask, if it is a mask, has been so perfect that if you are faking it, you’re surely smarter than that.

So do you have some actual hate-on for America’s favorite linguist, or are you really putting us on & starting to get tired of the masquerade?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/2 "2012-01-01T18:13:20Z")

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I’d guess he dislikes Noam Chomsky because people he likes dislike Noam Chomsky, and his understanding of the motives of Noam Chomsky (and, for that matter, the people who dislike him) is childish and superficial, at best.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/3 "2012-01-01T18:13:47Z")

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He’s just aping someone else. He watches Faux News or looks at wingnut websites or something.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/4 "2012-01-01T18:15:54Z")

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Linkage peut etre?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/5 "2012-01-01T18:16:38Z")

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I dislike Noam Chomsky in his role as a linguist. I wasn’t aware that he even had a role as a presidential aspirant.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/6 "2012-01-01T18:21:29Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Linkage peut etre?

[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=636310&page=2), although clicking the little link button next to **Qin** ’s name works too.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/7 "2012-01-01T18:25:16Z")

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A fake what? I doubt he’s a real Chinese emperor, if thats what your talking about.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/8 "2012-01-01T18:32:37Z")

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Fake conservative. Not that I buy it; American conservatism at this point is pretty much a diagnosis instead of a political position. No position is too stupid, too irrational, or too nasty for conservatives.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/9 "2012-01-01T18:35:12Z")

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Noam Chomsky hasn’t been a linguist in decades.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/10 "2012-01-01T18:35:48Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> No position is too stupid, too irrational, or too nasty for conservatives.

Yes. They have achieved perfection.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/11 "2012-01-01T18:36:06Z")

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Anybody who thinks highly enough of Curtis Lemay to take his name as a username is fucked in the head from the get-go. Fucking asshole nearly took us into WWIII without even blinking.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/12 "2012-01-01T18:42:40Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Noam Chomsky hasn’t been a linguist in decades.

Thats not true. He’s published both papers (which still get a decent number of citations) and books in the field in the last decade. He’s actually still pretty prolific given his age and the fact that he obviously spends a lot of his time writing on politics as well.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/13 "2012-01-01T18:44:33Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Anybody who thinks highly enough of Curtis Lemay to take his name as a username is fucked in the head from the get-go. Fucking asshole nearly took us into WWIII without even blinking.

And the First Emperor of china was also an asshole of historical proportions, he was a book burner and then followed that “nice” act by killing the scholars that wanted to preserve the past knowledge and culture.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/14 "2012-01-01T19:01:33Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I dislike Noam Chomsky in his role as a linguist. I wasn’t aware that he even had a role as a presidential aspirant.

There was a recent thread on what would one propose as the best hypothetical new ruler of America, that if we had to choose a philosopher king and one of the names that came up was Noam Chomski. That hypothetical thread was inspired for sure by the situation that Greece and Italy have now and it is likely the one that got Qin to, perhaps, lose his mask.

Personally, my choice would be like the ones made over there, in Greece they choose an economist that studied under a Nobel laureate teacher, so over here I would go one better and get a Nobel price winner: Paul Krugman.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/15 "2012-01-01T19:04:59Z")

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I love Krugman, but he may actually be too humble to be a head of government.

If I were to become dictator, though, I’d hire him on as an advisor of some kind.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/16 "2012-01-01T19:13:55Z")

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Why would it be odd for a conservative to revile Chomsky?

I don’t see this as a choice to “destroy America” any more ridiculous than any number of other choices in that thread.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/17 "2012-01-01T19:22:07Z")

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But why Chomsky in particular? Is he just the only anarchist-type Qin knows of with enough reputation to be taken seriously?

I mean, really, he’s a\* linguist.\*

Then again, as a fan of both Oscar Wilde and Fang the Unwashed, I am hardly afraid of mild-mannered anarcho-syndicalists, if that’s what Chomsky is.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/18 "2012-01-01T19:26:57Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> But why Chomsky in particular? Is he just the only anarchist-type Qin knows of with enough reputation to be taken seriously?
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> I mean, really, he’s a\* linguist.\*
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> Then again, as a fan of both Oscar Wilde and Fang the Unwashed, I am hardly afraid of mild-mannered anarcho-syndicalists, or whatever Chomsky is.

He’s a fairly active politic critic on the far left.

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> [Noam Chomsky’s Political Views](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky%27s_political_views)
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> Noam Chomsky is a widely known intellectual, political activist, and critic of the foreign policy of the United States and other governments. Noam Chomsky describes himself as a libertarian socialist, a sympathizer of anarcho-syndicalism and is considered to be a key intellectual figure within the left wing of American politics.

Emphasis added.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/19 "2012-01-01T19:27:29Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Thats not true. He’s published both papers (which still get a decent number of citations) and books in the field in the last decade. He’s actually still pretty prolific given his age and the fact that he obviously spends a lot of his time writing on politics as well.

Interesting. I wasn’t aware that he had published in linguistics recently.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/20 "2012-01-01T19:27:54Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> But why Chomsky in particular? Is he just the only anarchist-type Qin knows of with enough reputation to be taken seriously?

Explained in post #14. Someone else had brought up making him Prez in an earlier thread.

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> I mean, really, he’s a linguist.

Eh, he’s a linguist and a well known liberal political theorist. I imagine **Qin** was concerned more about the latter aspect then worried about having an advocate of Universal Grammar in the White House.

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