# Qin Curtis Shi Lemay Huangdi is a FAKE? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 1, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061 "2012-01-01T18:05:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/141 "2012-01-03T16:18:55Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Really? It does nothing to lessen my dislike. “But I’m an Aspie!” is no fucking excuse for sexual harrasment. Where _exactly_ in my post did I say that? Oh _riiiiiight_, I didn’t. His behavior was obviously out of line and he should stop it immediately. My sympathy for his situation has to do with the challenges he faces in social settings as a result of having Asperger’s. Having sympathy isn’t the same as making an excuse. You may want to work on your reading for comprehension skills. Or consult a dictionary. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/142 "2012-01-03T16:40:46Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Wise choice. I have a feeling **Der Trihs** knows a great deal about what goes into diagnosing one as mentally ill. > > Regards, > Shodan You have a feeling **Der Trihs** is a psychiatrist? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/143 "2012-01-03T16:55:15Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > I will also note that annoys me when people still call him Curtis. He changed his name. I can’t think of anybody else who changed their name on the SDMB who regularly gets called by their old name this long after the change. It’s childish and intentionally disrespectful. He made a big impression as Curtis Lemay. People got to know him and his personality under that name. When I see his new name, my first thought is, “Oh, it’s really Curtis.” It’s not disrespectful. He established his identity and created a lasting impression under one name. It’s more disrespectful to the SDMB community that he then chose to change that name than it is for others to consider his original name to be his “real” one. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/144 "2012-01-03T17:11:57Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You have a feeling **Der Trihs** is a psychiatrist? Wrong side of the couch. Or, possibly, wrong side of the tranquilizer dart filled with Haldol. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/145 "2012-01-03T17:28:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Wrong side of the couch. > > Or, possibly, wrong side of the tranquilizer dart filled with Haldol. > > Regards, > Shodan Hrm… > [@](#): > > Haloperidol is used to treat psychotic disorders (conditions that cause difficulty telling the difference between things or ideas that are real and things or ideas that are not real). Since your entire political world-view is based on lies, misinformation and misunderstandings, maybe you should add a little Haldol to your corn flakes. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/146 "2012-01-03T17:30:42Z")
Shut up, you fucking troll. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/147 "2012-01-03T17:31:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Wrong side of the couch. But…mental patients don’t have experience diagnosing psychiatric illnesses…I’m so confused ☹ More well thought out snark please. We have standards ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/148 "2012-01-03T17:33:26Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Shut up, you fucking troll. > > Regards, > Shodan Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the single-wide this morning. Brush your mullet and come back after you’ve had some vittles, you’re still a little grumpy. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/149 "2012-01-03T17:37:53Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > He made a big impression as Curtis Lemay. People got to know him and his personality under that name. When I see his new name, my first thought is, “Oh, it’s really Curtis.” It’s not disrespectful. He established his identity and created a lasting impression under one name. It’s more disrespectful to the SDMB community that he then chose to change that name than it is for others to consider his original name to be his “real” one. Yeah, it’s like this for me too. In my mind he’s really “Curtis under a pseudonym”, despite the fact that obviously Curtis was a pseudonym to begin with. If I ever ran into him in real life and he told me his actual name, I’d probably still think of him as Curtis. That’s just how names work. In my mind he’s also a little pissant who thinks he knows and understands way more than he really does and is too arrogant to even begin realizing it. Y’know, a teenager. Fuck those guys. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/150 "2012-01-03T18:01:55Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > To be fair, if you’re talking about his current name, I don’t see it much different as naming yourself after Ghengis Khan, Attila the Hun, Ivan the Terrible, Vlad the Impaler, etc. The guy lived what, over 2000 years ago? There was a hockey player for the Detroit Redwings whose nickname was Vlad the Impaler. > > I think it’s more of a fascination with history thing. I’m not defending **Qin** per se, but to go after him for his name, that’s pretty dumb. > > (Hey, maybe I’ll change mine to Erzsébet Báthory? I’m Hungarian-Slovak on my mom’s side. That’d be kinda cool) I see it about like kids wearing Che Guevara tees. They have no historical knowledge besides a vague feeling that he was Against The Man, yet he’s their hero. _shrug_ I still have my old copies of _Steal This Book_ and \*Anarchist Cookbook \*collecting dust around here somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/151 "2012-01-03T18:09:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Shut up, you fucking troll. > > Regards, > Shodan You forgot “uncle fucker.” ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/152 "2012-01-03T18:24:32Z")
I have a higher opinion of his uncle than that. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/153 "2012-01-03T19:14:09Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I have a higher opinion of his uncle than that. > > Regards, > Shodan Uncle blower, then. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/154 "2012-01-03T23:36:08Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > In my mind he’s also a little pissant who thinks he knows and understands way more than he really does and is too arrogant to even begin realizing it. Y’know, a teenager. Fuck those guys. He thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and, in most rooms, he probably is. He has read a few books and built a worldview from them. He’s like most everybody on this board was when we were his age, arrogant little pissants. With luck, in a few years he’ll have read more and will realize what a putz he had been. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/155 "2012-01-04T00:21:36Z")
That is of course true, and goes a long way towards explaining why I dislike the guy _so very much_ despite there being so very many manichean dimwits out there on the intertubes. I dimly suspect I was that guy once, and it pisses me right off. Still, when I was that bookish, cocksure, arrogant ignorant teenager guy, I wasn’t _that_ bad. I think. Well, at least I wasn’t so callous about human life. So there. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/156 "2012-01-04T00:28:29Z")
The last thing he needs is more reading. He needs to go outside and realize not everyone grew up exactly the same as he did and meet some actual people so he can stop being creepy and grow some empathy. Not going to get that from more Rand or any other reading. And I still haven’t seen anything I would call “intelligence” from him, being well read and regurgitating things you’ve heard and having strong opinions you refuse to budge from doesn’t prove “intelligence” to me. Stubbornness and bookwormishness yes. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/157 "2012-01-04T00:58:25Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > That is of course true, and goes a long way towards explaining why I dislike the guy _so very much_ despite there being so very many manichean dimwits out there on the intertubes. I dimly suspect I was that guy once, and it pisses me right off. That’s why I do what people did to me: I ignore him. And yes, he could use a kick in the pants from reality. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/158 "2012-01-04T00:59:16Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I have a higher opinion of his uncle than that. > > Regards, > Shodan He likes you too. You should call him. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/159 "2012-01-04T01:04:29Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > The last thing he needs is more reading. He needs to go outside and realize not everyone grew up exactly the same as he did and meet some actual people so he can stop being creepy and grow some empathy. Not going to get that from more Rand or any other reading. I don’t think empathy is something you grow, or learn. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061/160 "2012-01-04T01:13:43Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > What a nasty thing to say. Thank you. I think that says more about him than anyone else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-curtis-shi-lemay-huangdi-is-a-fake/608061.md?page=9)