# Qin Shi Huangdi, what is your pupose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 28, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562 "2010-12-28T00:52:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/261 "2011-11-27T13:57:14Z")
**BigT** , either you ran off the rails here, or you are being deliberately obtuse. Qin claimed that sexual desire, whether in homosexuals or pedophiles can be controlled. (I feel icky just writing those two things in the same sentence, and Qin conflates them shamelessly. NOTHING liberal about this idea. Zero.) Read it again: > [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > \*\*Flying Dutchman \*\*argued that since homosexuals cannot control their sexual behaviour neither can pedophiles and that thus its useless to try to get them to control their behaviour. I on the other hand argued that anyone can control their sexual desires and behaviour including pedophiles. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/262 "2011-11-27T15:47:41Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > If by “fucked up” you mean “hilarious,” then yes. I laughed my tits off at that. > [@bucketybuck](#): > > What will really keep you awake at night, is wondering if he would ever have gone on to shoot up that school if it hadn’t been suggested to him here first??? > [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Why does this sound like **Quin** ’s got \*\*Invisible Chimp \*\*in his sights, and the **Chimp** is trying to talk him out of shooting him. Ah, leave the **Chump** – I mean **Chimp** – alone. He was just living up to his user name. And now that he’s joined his psycho buddy on my Ignore list, he’s even more **Invisible** than ever. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/263 "2011-11-27T15:51:16Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Simple. I don’t jump on girls if I get horny. Maybe your personality has more to do with this than your will. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/264 "2011-11-27T15:54:56Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Simple. I don’t jump on girls if I get horny. Do you have the _desire_ to do so? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/265 "2011-11-27T16:01:35Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Simple. I don’t jump on girls if I get horny. Naah. You just get reeeaaal close enough to make them uncomfortable… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/266 "2011-11-27T16:12:02Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > It’s really easy to say that when you’re a 14-year-old high school kid and probably not exactly beating the girls off with a stick. Assuming he was telling the truth when he joined up two years ago, he should be at least 16 now. I’m still not entirely convinced he’s not a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/267 "2011-11-27T18:44:18Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > What will really keep you awake at night, is wondering if he would ever have gone on to shoot up that school if it hadn’t been suggested to him here first??? Telling, or teasing, a troubled kid that he is a violent psycho is the type of bullying bullshit that could turn them into exactly that. > [@Sitnam](#): > > Meh, I was like him when I was 15. Charging out into the world without nuance or humility. There is black and white, I thought, everything else is just quibbling. I look back on my journals at that time and just roll my eyes. I was even a Christian Libertarian when I was his age. Some people even thought I had Asperger’s. I guess that’s why I feel the need to come to his defense even though I don’t agree with his views now. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Ah, leave the **Chump** – I mean **Chimp** – alone. He was just living up to his user name. And now that he’s joined his psycho buddy on my Ignore list, he’s even more **Invisible** than ever. 😃 I could never really see the point of the Ignore List function. Nobody is forcing me to read anybody else’s posts. Idiots can be really entertaining a lot of the time too. However, I feel strangely honored to know I finally made someone’s list. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/268 "2011-11-27T18:47:58Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Simple. I don’t jump on girls if I get horny. Somehow, I don’t think you’re spoiled for choice when it comes to girls. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/269 "2011-11-27T20:20:44Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Somehow, I don’t think you’re spoiled for choice when it comes to girls. Nonsense, I’ve no doubt he has access to quite the harem. All of them looking remarkably like saucer-eyed seven-year-olds with pumpkin-sized breasts and a giggling attraction to cephalopods. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/270 "2011-11-27T22:43:26Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > Assuming he was telling the truth when he joined up two years ago, he should be at least 16 now. I’m still not entirely convinced he’s not a troll. He reported his age as 13 (and being just out of 7th grade). He’s 15. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/271 "2011-11-28T04:56:32Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’m still having trouble with this: > The British failed to “fully reform” Hindu culture? What the fuck does THAT mean? Failed to exterminate? Failed to school the great unwashed dark masses in The One True Religion? Nonsense. I mean reform it via education. > [@](#): > > And Mexico has a great benefit in geographic proximity to the US? The Great American Exceptionalism is something that can be absorbed by osmosis? > > It does seem this post is indeed quite well marinated in very potent bigotry. [/QUOTE] Of course not. If you’re close to an economic superpower, obviously businesses are going to invest right across the border rather than across the ocean. Nothing to do with “American Exceptionalism”. > [@Troppus](#): > > **BigT** , either you ran off the rails here, or you are being deliberately obtuse. Qin claimed that sexual desire, whether in homosexuals or pedophiles can be controlled. (I feel icky just writing those two things in the same sentence, and Qin conflates them shamelessly. NOTHING liberal about this idea. Zero.) > > Read it again: No I meant there is a difference between sudden uncontrollable desire and dwelling on it which can be unhealthy regardless of one’s sexuality. > [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > Assuming he was telling the truth when he joined up two years ago, he should be at least 16 now. I’m still not entirely convinced he’s not a troll. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > He reported his age as 13 (and being just out of 7th grade). He’s 15. this. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/272 "2011-11-28T06:32:12Z")
I’d just like to point out that Qin could both be 15 and a troll. Or just a confused kid who has a head filled up with religious nonsense and conservative dogma. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/273 "2011-11-28T06:39:34Z")
He could also be a delicious cupcake with sprinkles. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/274 "2011-11-28T11:34:25Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Nonsense. I mean reform it via education. How does one “reform” a _culture?_ You’re still saying that Western culture is inherently superior to Hindu culture, which makes you a bigot ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/275 "2011-11-28T11:41:35Z")
What specific reforms, apart from the outlawing of suttee, do you think should have been implemented? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/276 "2011-11-28T13:52:06Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > Assuming he was telling the truth when he joined up two years ago, he should be at least 16 now. He may be 15 or 16 in real life, but Qin’ll be 13 in our hearts forever. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/277 "2011-11-28T16:23:02Z")
He’ll also be **Curtis**. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/278 "2011-11-28T16:25:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He could also be a delicious cupcake with sprinkles. The sprinkles are also cursed. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/279 "2011-11-28T17:05:08Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He could also be a delicious cupcake with sprinkles. Haven’t heard that particular euphemism… ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/280 "2011-11-28T17:07:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He could also be a delicious cupcake with sprinkles. Is this some kind of trick to get me to taste him? Because I fell for that once in prison. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562.md?page=15)