# Qin Shi Huangdi, what is your pupose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 28, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562 "2010-12-28T00:52:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/281 "2011-11-29T01:28:03Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > How does one “reform” a _culture?_ You’re still saying that Western culture is inherently superior to Hindu culture, which makes you a bigot No Hindu-Indian (Christian and Muslim Indians also maintain the caste system) culture is inferior because of its caste system and other practices. > [@jjimm](#): > > What specific reforms, apart from the outlawing of suttee, do you think should have been implemented? Probably industrializing India much more which would naturally have weakened the caste system bond, making caste discrimnation illegal, and land reform. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/282 "2011-11-29T01:35:46Z")
Land reform? You mean like the communists? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/283 "2011-11-29T01:42:39Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Probably industrializing India much more which would naturally have weakened the caste system bond, making caste discrimnation illegal, and land reform. This statement is in direct contradiction to where you said “reform it via education”. I think you are unclear in what you actually mean. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/284 "2011-11-29T01:46:29Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > No Hindu-Indian (Christian and Muslim Indians also maintain the caste system) culture is inferior because of its caste system and other practices. Piffle. All cultures have caste systems, whether they admit it or not. What I’m hearing when I read your post is “WAAAAAHHHHH! They aren’t like us!” ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/285 "2011-11-29T02:14:21Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I’ve been trying to decide when to have sex for years[sup]\*[/sup] without any luck. > > - That’s “decide when to have sex” for years, not decide when to “have sex for years”, in case anybody was wondering.[sup]\*\*[/sup] > > \*\* Which they probably weren’t. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post from you that didn’t make me chuckle. If you ever run for president, you’ve got my vote. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/286 "2011-11-29T08:41:09Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Piffle. All cultures have caste systems, whether they admit it or not. What I’m hearing when I read your post is “WAAAAAHHHHH! They aren’t like us!” Well in fairness in India itself the Hindu caste system is pretty insidious and far more deeply observed than other systems that get the name ‘caste’. Though it should be pointed out that there have been some [considerable successes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._R._Narayanan) with regard to reform. However **Qin** , you omit that the Sikhs and Buddhists also busted out of the caste system. You also omit the efforts of indigenous Indian religions, in particular Hindus, to reform the system. I strongly doubt that the British, being non-native occupiers, would have had any more success than the Hindu reformers working from within. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/287 "2011-11-29T09:15:45Z")
I’ve been wondering that too. For the love of cupcakes, Qin, you can get your hands on tons of information because of broadband internet and learn from other people instead of just spouting off what you’ve basically memorized. You can interact with people and not be just an annoying schmuck or that awkward kid. It seems to me that you don’t learn much from other posters here, from their replies to your threads. You don’t appreciate what others have to offer based on their life experience. I don’t know why you do it like that. What I do know is that I would have killed somebody for this kind of access and information when i was 15 as well as the chance to interact with people from most of the English speaking world and you’re fucking pissing it away. THAT is what I see. Maybe somebody else sees something different, but i don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/288 "2011-11-29T13:09:52Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Today’s enlightened skinheads only require that you HATE the same people they hate. They don’t mind if you are one. Needless to say, the older skinhead generation thinks they’re a bunch of pussy liberal fags. Not strictly true in Britain. A few years ago I knew a British West Indian who was livid when his application to join The National Front, (an extreme right wing,racist political party) was turned down . He wanted to join because he hated Indians and Pakistanis. Its illegal now to refuse party membership on grounds of race. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/289 "2011-11-30T00:24:25Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Today’s enlightened skinheads only require that you HATE the same people they hate. They don’t mind if you are one. Needless to say, the older skinhead generation thinks they’re a bunch of pussy liberal fags. The funny thing that I noticed in the older generation of skinheads from personal experience was the frequency they did a full 180 on their beliefs. Much as they claimed to be devoted to the cause™ I think they just felt the need to belong to something. I knew a lot of straight-edge SHARPS (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) that I’d run into a year later drunk and stoned off their asses wearing swastikas still sporting the same Doc Martins and shaven head and vice-versa. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/290 "2011-11-30T02:21:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He could also be a delicious cupcake with sprinkles. …mmmmm…Qin… ---
**Author:** ![willthekittensurvive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@willthekittensurvive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/willthekittensurvive)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/291 "2011-11-30T11:26:26Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > Not strictly true in Britain. > > A few years ago I knew a British West Indian who was livid when his application to join The National Front, (an extreme right wing,racist political party) was turned down . > > He wanted to join because he hated Indians and Pakistanis. > > Its illegal now to refuse party membership on grounds of race. weren’t the the first skinheads were west indian, jamaicans? ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/292 "2011-11-30T16:40:47Z")
IME no, but they used to team up with Skins to go “Paki bashing”, and shared clubs and music. As to the group \*\*DISSONANCE \*\*referred to, SHARPSI have never ever in the U.K. come across genuine ex skins of whatever age being actively anti racist, NOT EVER, though I will Google them. I have over the years come across more then a few of the extreme left who aped Skin head style, but weren’t actually into soccer hooliganism, reggae, two tone and the whole biz. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/293 "2011-11-30T20:13:52Z")
Nearly any of the skins I know are anarchists. They’re anti-racist, right-on types. That seems the predominant mode of skinhead in recent years. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562.md?page=14)