# Qin Shi Huangdi, what is your pupose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 28, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562 "2010-12-28T00:52:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/101 "2010-12-29T04:38:29Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I didn’t know that he has an Asian heritage, Somewhat surprising since the RW Curtis Lemay was most famous for firebombing Asians. I don’t really know how to interpret that. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It’s self-reported on his part. I’ll see if I can dig up a cite. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > Actually, I believe he’s said that he’s Korean. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > [This will do, I suppose.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11746650&postcount=1) I’m too lazy to Search for it, but there’s a recent thread asking if anyone famous shares your surname, and **Curtis** chimed in to say that Virginia Tech shooter did. So I guess he’s Korean-American. That was my first indication he was Asian. I’ve been dubious in the past about whether he’s for real, suspecting instead he’s just an adult screwing around. But IIRC, one time he mentioned the name of the school district he belongs to, and another poster said so did his daughter of the same age and he hoped she didn’t have to suffer being his classmate, and **Curtis** instantly replied with the name of the street intersection he lived on, the corner, I guess to indicate which school it would be. That was too identifying and got deleted by a Mod pronto. So I guess he’s for real. I’m a bit surprised that I remember all of this, as I generally never give him much thought. I find him rather annoying, like I do anyone who has to wear his religion on his sleeve, so maybe it’s just he just sticks out like a sore thumb. > [@kidneyfailure](#): > > The original skinhead movement was multi-racial and based around reggae and ska music in post-war Britain. The neo-Nazi skinheads were a later subculture-within-a-subculture that was loathed by just about everyone who called him/herself a skinhead. So, yes, there were and are Asian skinheads as well as black, hispanic, jewish, gay, etc etc etc skinheads. Ah yes, of course. I remember that now. And we’ve even seen [This Is England](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480025/). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/102 "2010-12-29T05:55:06Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > So start a Pit thread about me, rather than threadshitting in this one. You’re the one who inserted yourself into my post. Suck it up. > [@](#): > > **Curtis** has in the past claimed to have Aspergers. It’s not “stupidity” on my part. In fact, you are correct on this point, so I take that back. ---
**Author:** ![cherry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cherry)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/103 "2010-12-29T06:11:03Z")
I think he posted his YouTube account link on here but probably got deleted. It had something to do with a video serenading a teacher to some old song. It was strange but the guy in the video was a young Asian boy. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/104 "2010-12-29T06:46:10Z")
I think he’s just having a hard time justifying what he’s force fed at home and what he hears here. I think he is leaning secretly to liberalism and atheism but is afraid to let go of his upbringing. The rest is just schoolboy bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/105 "2010-12-29T10:21:54Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > I think he’s just having a hard time justifying what he’s force fed at home and what he hears here. I think he is leaning secretly to liberalism and atheism but is afraid to let go of his upbringing. The rest is just schoolboy bullshit. Wow. It took me like three posts and a small play to say what you’ve said in a few lines. I couldn’t agree more. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/106 "2010-12-29T10:42:02Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > I think he’s just having a hard time justifying what he’s force fed at home and what he hears here. I think he is leaning secretly to liberalism and atheism but is afraid to let go of his upbringing. The rest is just schoolboy bullshit. Exactly. The entire purpose of every one of his posts is actually to prove his point of view correct–because he’s worried that he’s wrong. And, yes, in an environment where you don’t get any psychological help, Asperger’s does explain a lot. Combine it with his age and upbringing, and I think it fits perfectly. An Aspie tends to have the social IQ of someone half their age, but the vocabulary of someone twice it. Everyone thinks he’s smarter than he is because he sounds like it, and they give him too complicated things to think about. And he’s having a hard time dealing with it. I’ve noticed that he’s reported that he doesn’t read very well. I actually believe that he skips a lot of posts that are too long, complicated, or abstract for him. That’s why I sound so condescending when I talk to him–I’m trying to talk to him on a lower level, and that’s the only way I know how to do it. I don’t think Asperger’s excuses him, but I do think that we have way too high expectations out of him. I can practically guarantee he isn’t going to learn to act less annoying from us. It’s something that will take a professional. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/107 "2010-12-29T12:39:04Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Exactly. The entire purpose of every one of his posts is actually to prove his point of view correct–because he’s worried that he’s wrong. > > And, yes, in an environment where you don’t get any psychological help, Asperger’s does explain a lot. Combine it with his age and upbringing, and I think it fits perfectly. An Aspie tends to have the social IQ of someone half their age, but the vocabulary of someone twice it. Everyone thinks he’s smarter than he is because he sounds like it, and they give him too complicated things to think about. And he’s having a hard time dealing with it. > > I’ve noticed that he’s reported that he doesn’t read very well. I actually believe that he skips a lot of posts that are too long, complicated, or abstract for him. That’s why I sound so condescending when I talk to him–I’m trying to talk to him on a lower level, and that’s the only way I know how to do it. > > I don’t think Asperger’s excuses him, but I do think that we have way too high expectations out of him. I can practically guarantee he isn’t going to learn to act less annoying from us. It’s something that will take a professional. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/108 "2010-12-29T13:07:13Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > I think he’s just having a hard time justifying what he’s force fed at home and what he hears here. I think he is leaning secretly to liberalism and atheism but is afraid to let go of his upbringing. The rest is just schoolboy bullshit. I concur, to a certain extent. I tend to read his posts as a teenager testing ideas he’s been brought up with (as I did in my own way at that age, before Al Gore invented the internet). How much of the opposing position he takes to heart we’ll never know, but I often feel that he doesn’t have the depth of knowledge to shore up some of the views he espouses and thus can’t really come back to debate further what he’s proposed in the OP. I disagree with pretty much all of his political and religious views but I don’t recall ever feeling that he was trolling or arguing in bad faith[size=1]. (And “girlfriend in Canada” was a cliche before _Breakfast Club_, which is why it’s funny.) ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/109 "2010-12-31T02:45:04Z")
Yes I am really fourteen (I’ve friended **FriarTed** on Facebook, so ask him if you do not believe me) I was born here in the USA but am of Korean descent I do have Aspergers but I do now wish to be treated any differently for it As to the main question posited here: My purpose here is like what I suspect most other members are, to get answers to various questions and to engage in debate and discussion. Sometimes I do have a good idea for a debate but since I am not knowledgable about it, I will set the debate going and listen to other’s opinions to formulate my own. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/110 "2010-12-31T02:53:17Z")
Hey,\*\* Qin\*\*, good on you for showing up in this thread. I’m impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/111 "2010-12-31T12:16:25Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > As to the main question posited here: My purpose here is like what I suspect most other members are, to get answers to various questions and to engage in debate and discussion. Sometimes I do have a good idea for a debate but since I am not knowledgable about it, I will set the debate going and listen to other’s opinions to formulate my own. I appreciate your response. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/112 "2011-01-01T21:49:45Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Yes I am really fourteen (I’ve friended **FriarTed** on Facebook, so ask him if you do not believe me) > > I was born here in the USA but am of Korean descent > > I do have Aspergers but I do now wish to be treated any differently for it > > As to the main question posited here: My purpose here is like what I suspect most other members are, to get answers to various questions and to engage in debate and discussion. Sometimes I do have a good idea for a debate but since I am not knowledgable about it, I will set the debate going and listen to other’s opinions to formulate my own. Thanks for that post. Well done. BTW, although I’m sure this has come up and I must have missed it, I still wanted to say that I used to wonder, “Does he really _admire_ Curtis Lemay?”. Well, _does_ he? (or, maybe, _did_ he?) ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/113 "2011-01-02T06:22:51Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > > [@PlainJain](#): > > > > I think he’s just having a hard time justifying what he’s force fed at home and what he hears here. I think he is leaning secretly to liberalism and atheism but is afraid to let go of his upbringing. The rest is just schoolboy bullshit. > > Wow. It took me like three posts and a small play to say what you’ve said in a few lines. I couldn’t agree more. Thirded/fourthed/whatevered here. I think he thought he knew how the world worked until he started finding opposing arguments at the SDMB compelling. Even before this thread I noticed, though no less zealous in defending his point of view, he’s at least started to genuinely consider opposing points of view. Not sure I’d go so far as to say leaning towards liberalism, but at least leaning towards more critical thinking regarding his own points of view. He’s also never once used or even brought up Aspergers as an excuse or defense. So for all that, I have to give the kid credit. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/114 "2011-01-06T16:48:17Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > My purpose here is like what I suspect most other members are, to get answers to various questions and to engage in debate and discussion. Sometimes I do have a good idea for a debate but since I am not knowledgable about it, I will set the debate going and listen to other’s opinions to formulate my own. It would be helpful if you would make it more clear when you’re listening in threads, i.e., by responding to questions that are directly addressed to you. Even if your answer is, “I don’t know.” ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/115 "2011-01-06T17:11:23Z")
Yeah, you kind of come across like that smug guy offering trinkets for two homeless guys to fight for you. We’re not here to amuse you, if you want to play then participate. Dropping a topic/turd and then never participating again, to questions asked, positions offered, makes you look like a trollish douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/116 "2011-01-06T17:38:36Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Yeah, you kind of come across like that smug guy offering trinkets for two homeless guys to fight for you. We’re not here to amuse you, if you want to play then participate. > > Dropping a topic/turd and then never participating again, to questions asked, positions offered, makes you look like a trollish douchebag. I don’t think sitting back and allowing people to have a discussion makes you all some sort of experiment for him. I don’t get what the big deal is. He explained his position as mostly an onlooker. Why can’t that be the end of it? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/117 "2011-01-06T17:58:38Z")
> [@elninost0rm](#): > > I don’t get what the big deal is. He explained his position as mostly an onlooker. Why can’t that be the end of it? It’s a pile-on. He’s young, has Asperger’s, and doesn’t conform to the groupthink, so some Dopers are asserting their status as members of the Cool Kids by picking at someone who is not. You see the same dynamic in most sixth-grade playgrounds. The hive mind does not tolerate dissent, and it especially hates it when people are indifferent. My arguments are important, dammit, and you better respond, and in the way I want you to! Etc. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/118 "2011-01-06T18:17:47Z")
Insightful as ever, **Shodan**. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/119 "2011-01-06T18:23:10Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It’s a pile-on. He’s young, has Asperger’s, and doesn’t conform to the groupthink, so some Dopers are asserting their status as members of the Cool Kids by picking at someone who is not. > > You see the same dynamic in most sixth-grade playgrounds. Connoisseur of sixth-grade playgrounds, or just testing out the new binoculars? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qin-shi-huangdi-what-is-your-pupose/565562/120 "2011-01-06T18:25:00Z")
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