# 'Quake Aid offered to Iran form US and or Israell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 28, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363 "2003-12-28T02:48:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/41 "2003-12-29T03:40:26Z")

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We aren’t talking political negotiations here. We are talking about peoples lives. There is no time to go slow.

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**Author:** ![2Thick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a88e57/32.png) [@2Thick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2Thick)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/42 "2003-12-29T06:14:48Z")

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The reason why Iran rightfully does not accept any “help” from Israel is two-fold.

Firstly, Israel would send spies in Iran. That is a fact.

Secondly, Israel would send spies into Iran.

Oh, did I mention that Israel would send spies in Iran?

You have to be really ignorant to question why Iran would not want Israel’s help.

As for someone else’s question about Iran offering help if Israel suffered a huge natural disaster…of course Iran would offer (just as Iran offers to all countires in the same position) and Israel would refuse.

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/43 "2003-12-29T06:31:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 2Thick \*  
> \*\*The reason why Iran rightfully does not accept any “help” from Israel is two-fold.
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> Firstly, Israel would send spies in Iran. That is a fact.
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> Secondly, Israel would send spies into Iran.
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> Oh, did I mention that Israel would send spies in Iran?
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> You have to be really ignorant to question why Iran would not want Israel’s help.\*\*

Nobody seriously suggested that Israel would send **personnel** to Iran. We’re talking humanitarian aid here. And the reason Iran should refuse food and blankets that come from Israel is… ?

Dani

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**Author:** ![2Thick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/a88e57/32.png) [@2Thick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2Thick)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/44 "2003-12-29T06:49:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Noone Special \*  
> And the reason Iran should refuse food and blankets that come from Israel is… ?
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> Dani \*\*

You do not accept the helping hand of someone that wants to go to War with you.

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**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/45 "2003-12-29T07:12:43Z")

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What, do you think Israel is going to lace the blankets with small pox or something?? 😕 I try to get all the free stuff I can out of my enemies.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/46 "2003-12-29T07:23:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by 2Thick \*  
> The reason why Iran rightfully does not accept any “help” from Israel is two-fold.
> 
> Firstly, Israel would send spies in Iran. That is a fact.
> 
> Secondly, Israel would send spies into Iran.
> 
> Oh, did I mention that Israel would send spies in Iran?
> 
> You have to be really ignorant to question why Iran would not want Israel’s help.
> 
> As for someone else’s question about Iran offering help if Israel suffered a huge natural disaster…of course Iran would offer (just as Iran offers to all countires in the same position) and Israel would refuse.

LOL , your serious are’nt you

Iran and Israel probably have the most conductive relationship, after Israel and Turkey. During Gulf war one , between Iran and Iraq , the whole arms for money deal , was brokered and conducted by Israel.

The American govt shipped IHAWKS to Israel , as the end user ,who then transhipped the missiles and other spare parts for Irans airforce , to Iran.

But your statement at the end says it all, both will probably say in public , that they will not accept or ask for aid , and yet , in private the local airports are probably not going to look real hard at the national insignia on those C-130’s.

As for the spies , they are already there.

Declan

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/47 "2003-12-29T07:44:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 2Thick \*  
> \*\*You do not accept the helping hand of someone that wants to go to War with you. \*\*

I dunno. If I were in a lenghty and ugly legal battle with my next-door neighbor, I would like to think that I would still help him if his house were on fire. And that he would help me.

YMMV

Dani

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/48 "2003-12-29T07:55:05Z")

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Israel doesn’t want war with anyone anyway. They aren’t the ones trying to do away with the Muslim world. It’s the Muslim world that wants to do away with them.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quake-aid-offered-to-iran-form-us-and-or-israell/221363/49 "2003-12-29T12:25:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*We aren’t talking political negotiations here. We are talking about peoples lives. There is no time to go slow. \*\*

No, we aren’t talking about people’s lives. The aid was secured by the underlings. You’re talking about political and diplomatic statements.

Unfortunately, political reality doesn’t allow for high level talks and photo ops between Bush and Khatami right now.

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