# Qualified Candidates for 2024 POTUS Race (both parties) under 60 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 5, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029 "2022-05-05T20:06:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/61 "2022-06-24T04:11:56Z")
Catherine Cortez Masto just misses the threshhold. She’ll be 60 at election time. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/62 "2022-06-24T15:12:46Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Yang is a fucking idiot and not a Democrat (he’s a con artist masquerading as an independent pushing “both sides” bullshit). I think his political career is basically toast after finishing 4th in the NYC mayor’s race. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/63 "2022-06-24T15:30:41Z")
Welp, I should consider myself lucky the under-60 requirement in the thread means I am not a potential candidate myself… ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/64 "2022-06-25T19:40:08Z")
Vote @ekedolphin for President in 2024: “Technically, he’s old enough.” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/65 "2022-06-25T23:45:12Z")
Cory Booker? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/66 "2022-06-26T11:05:05Z")
Jason Kander seems like a nice and intelligent fellow. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/67 "2022-07-12T00:30:33Z")
I just thought that I would try to be a bit more productive and put together an actual first-pass list of people. I’m largely just scraping people together from leadership in large government-related organizations, who are under 60. I’m not looking at them in any depth, at the moment: > **[Michael Kurilla](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kurilla)** > > Michael Erik Kurilla (born May 16, 1966) is a United States Army general who serves as the 15th commander of United States Central Command since April 1, 2022. He previously served as the commanding general of the XVIII Airborne Corps and before that as the chief of staff of the United States Central Command. > Born in California and raised in Elk River, Minnesota, Kurilla received a bachelor’s degree in aerospace engineering from the United States Military Academy, an MBA from Regis University... > **[Paul M. Nakasone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_M._Nakasone)** > > Paul Miki Nakasone (Japanese: 仲宗根ミキ Nakasone Miki, born November 19, 1963): 2  is a four-star general in the United States Army who serves as the commander of United States Cyber Command. He serves concurrently as the director of the National Security Agency and as chief of the Central Security Service. Nakasone took command of the United States Second Army and Army Cyber Command in October 2016, until the Second Army's inactivation in March 2017. In May 2018, he became head Born in White Bear L... > **[Christopher G. Cavoli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_G._Cavoli)** > > Christopher Gerard Cavoli is a United States Army general who serves as the commander of United States European Command since 1 July 2022 and Supreme Allied Commander Europe since 4 July 2022. He previously served as the commanding general of United States Army Europe and Africa from October 2020 to June 2022, and before that as the commanding general of United States Army Europe from January 2018 to September 2020. > Commissioned into the infantry from the Reserve Officers' Training Corps, Cavol... > **[Glen D. VanHerck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_D._VanHerck)** > > Glen David VanHerck (born October 20, 1962) is a general in the United States Air Force, who serves as the commander of both United States Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command. He previously served as Director of the Joint Staff from August 2019 to August 2020. He assumed his current assignment on August 20, 2020. > VanHerck was born in Murray, Kentucky, and raised in Bismarck, Missouri. He graduated from the University of Missouri, where he was commissioned through t... > **[Laura J. Richardson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_J._Richardson)** > > Laura Jane Richardson (born December 11, 1963) is a four-star general in the United States Army who is the commander of United States Southern Command since October 29, 2021. Prior to that, she was the commanding general of United States Army North from July 2019 to September 2021. > As an army aviator, Richardson flew Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters. Promoted to brigadier general in 2011, she served in various commands at Fort Hood and as chief of staff for communication in the Internat... > **[Richard D. Clarke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_D._Clarke)** > > Richard D. Clarke Jr. (born July 23, 1962) is a United States Army four-star general who last served as the 12th commander of United States Special Operations Command from March 29, 2019 to August 30, 2022. Prior to assuming command of USSOCOM, General Clarke served as Director for Strategic Plans and Policy (J5), Joint Staff, the Pentagon, Arlington, Virginia. > Clarke was born in West Germany and raised in an Army family. He is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, Ne... > **[Jacqueline Van Ovost](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqueline_Van_Ovost)** > > Jacqueline Desiree Van Ovost (born September 29, 1965) is a United States Air Force general who has served as the 14th commander of the United States Transportation Command since October 15, 2021. She was nominated to that post by President Biden on March 5, 2021. Van Ovost had previously served as the commander of the Air Mobility Command from August 2020 to October 2021. In early 2021, she was the only active-duty female four-star general officer in the United States. > Van Ovost received a Bach... > **[Scott A. Spellmon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_A._Spellmon)** > > Scott Alan Spellmon (born November 2, 1963) is a lieutenant general in the United States Army who currently serves as the 55th Chief of Engineers and the commanding general of the United States Army Corps of Engineers. > Raised in Bloomingdale, New Jersey, Spellmon graduated from Butler High School in 1982. He then attended the United States Military Academy, graduating with a Bachelor of Science in 1986 and commissioning into the Army Corps of Engineers. Spellmon also has received master's degree... > **[Ted Gayer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gayer)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Ted Gayer (born May 8, 1970) is an American economist and the president of the Niskanen Center. He is formerly the executive vice president of the Brookings Institution, where he also once served as the vice president and director of the Economic Studies Program and the Joseph A. Pechman Senior Fellow. On June 12, 2022, Gayer was appointed acting president of the Brookings Institution following the resignation of John R. Allen that same day. > Gaye... > **[Blair Effron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blair_Effron)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > Blair W. Effron (born 1962) is an American financier. Effron co-founded Centerview Partners, a leading global investment banking firm based in New York City. Centerview has offices in London, Paris, Chicago, Los Angeles, Palo Alto and San Francisco. The firm provides advice on mergers and acquisitions, financial restructurings, valuation, and capital structure to companies, institutions and governments. > Effron is also active in Democratic Part... > **[Jami Miscik](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami_Miscik)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Judith A. "Jami" Miscik (born 1958) is an American intelligence analyst who was also the Central Intelligence Agency's Deputy Director for Intelligence, the Agency's most senior analytic post. In 2005 she left CIA to become Global Head of Sovereign Risk for the now-bankrupt financial services firm Lehman Brothers. Miscik is former President and Vice-Chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc. in New York and currently CEO of Global Strategic Insights, ... > **[Sylvia Mathews Burwell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Mathews_Burwell)** > > Sylvia Mary Burwell (née Mathews; born June 23, 1965) is an American government and non-profit executive who has been the 15th president of American University since June 1, 2017. Burwell is the first woman to serve as the university's president. Burwell earlier served as the 22nd United States Secretary of Health and Human Services. President Barack Obama nominated Burwell on April 11, 2014. Burwell's nomination was confirmed by the Senate on June 5, 2014, by a vote of 78–17. She served as Se... > **[Nathaniel Fick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Fick)** > > Nathaniel C. Fick (born June 23, 1977) is an American diplomat, technology executive, author, and former United States Marine Corps officer. He was the CEO of cybersecurity software company Endgame, Inc., then worked for Elastic NV after it acquired Endgame. He was an Operating Partner at Bessemer Venture Partners. In 2022, he was selected to lead the U.S. State Department's Bureau for Cyberspace and Digital Policy. > Fick is the author of One Bullet Away: The Making of a Marine Officer, a memoir ... > **[Laurene Powell Jobs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurene_Powell_Jobs)** > > Laurene Powell Jobs (née Powell; born November 6, 1963) is an American billionaire businesswoman and executive. She is the founder and chair of Emerson Collective and XQ Institute. Powell Jobs resides in Palo Alto, California, with her three children. She is the widow of Steve Jobs, co-founder and former CEO of Apple Inc., and she manages the Steve Jobs Trust. She has recently been a major donor to Democratic Party politicians. > Powell Jobs grew up in West Milford, New Jersey. She earned a B.A... > **[Deven Parekh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deven_Parekh)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Deven Parekh is an American venture capitalist, philanthropist, Democratic fundraiser and public servant. He is managing director at Insight Partners, a New York City venture capital and private equity firm. Parekh is a noted donor and fundraiser for Democratic politicians. He has served in multiple government advisory roles, and is currently a member of the board of directors for the Council on Foreign Relations and the US International Developme... > **[Cliff Asness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Asness)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > Clifford Scott Asness (/ˈæznəs/; born October 17, 1966) is an American hedge fund manager and the co-founder of AQR Capital Management. > Asness was born to a Jewish family, in Queens, New York, the son of Carol, who ran a medical education firm, and Barry Asness, an assistant district attorney in Manhattan. His family moved to Roslyn Heights, New York when he was four. He attended the B'nai B'rith Perlman Camp and graduated from Herricks High Sc... > **[Pete Coors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Coors)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Peter Hanson Coors (born September 20, 1946) is an American businessman and politician. He formerly served as the chairman of the Molson Coors Brewing Company and chairman of MillerCoors. > Coors was the Republican party nominee in the 2004 United States Senate election in Colorado. > Coors was born in Golden, Colorado. He is the great-grandson of Adolph Coors, the brewing entrepreneur, and the son of Holly Coors (born Edith Holland Hanson) and Jose... > **[Frank Hanna III](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hanna_III)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Frank J. Hanna III is an American entrepreneur, merchant banker and philanthropist. He was one of three entrepreneurs profiled in the Acton Institute and PBS documentary film The Call of the Entrepreneur. > Hanna has been described as "one of the leading Catholic philanthropists in the USA." > Hanna was a corporate attorney with Troutman Sanders, a multi city law firm headquartered in Atlanta. Since 2006, he has served as CEO of the family's investm... > **[Jason Matheny - Profile](https://www.rand.org/about/people/m/matheny_jason.html)** > > Staff profile for Jason Matheny, President and Chief Executive Officer, RAND Corporation at the RAND Corporation. Got bored there, but I can probably add as many names as anyone feels are necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/68 "2022-07-25T13:22:43Z")
It has always seemed odd to me that Cabinet posts aren’t a rich source of Presidential nominees. If you think about it, running a Cabinet office is the same sort of work that running all the cabinets is, just on one rung down the ladder. You get to show how good you are at organizing a few thousand people, articulating your agenda and beliefs in public, ginning up support in Congress, etc., everything a President does, but on a smaller scale. Other than Herbert Hoover, though, Cabinet positions seem like a dead end to the presidency. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/69 "2022-07-25T13:36:56Z")
> [@Roger\_That](#): > > It has always seemed odd to me that Cabinet posts aren’t a rich source of Presidential nominees. You don’t build up a base of support like a Governor or Senator from a state can. And most people don’t really know what a Cabinet Secretary really does aside from Secretary of State or Defense (how many people know how Antony Blinken or Lloyd Austin are) and even there it seems like they are carrying out the President’s wishes. And in the case of Hillary Clinton, being Secretary of State may have hurt her - that’s where the “but her emails” thing came from (ironically from a picture of her checking her blackberry which was shared as a meme of her being a badass). ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/70 "2022-07-25T14:53:00Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > And in the case of Hillary Clinton, being Secretary of State may have hurt her - that’s where the “but her emails” thing came from I think it also hurt her because in spite of the fact that it hasn’t ever actually panned out since WWII (I think), the public still views some of these high-profile cabinet picks as anointing a successor which played into her existing reputation as a pqrty insider who was being fousted on the country. It seems like esp after Trump it’s becoming obvious that no one can really predict what qualities the public wants in a president, we just “know it when we see it” after the fact, so trying to find the next Obama and giving them a cabinet position is going to be a shot in the dark any way. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/71 "2022-07-25T14:56:33Z")
> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > I think it also hurt her because in spite of the fact that it hasn’t ever actually panned out since WWII (I think), the public still views some of these high-profile cabinet picks as anointing a successor which played into her existing reputation as a pqrty insider who was being fousted on the country. Well it doesn’t hurt Vice Presidents 🙂 . But yes, she would have likely done better if she remained in the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/72 "2022-07-25T20:09:36Z")
Oh, I’m not trying to argue that being a prominent cabinet secretary helps–plainly, it hurts. But there’s no real reason a SecDef or SecState or AG is less qualified than a VP or most Senators or Governors. They have real responsibilities and real executive authority. It’s just that voters don’t see that. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/73 "2022-07-26T20:53:36Z")
If how qualified you were for the position really mattered, a lot of recent elections would have gone very differently 😉 . ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/74 "2022-07-29T21:41:46Z")
[WaPo: Let’s say Biden doesn’t run](https://wapo.st/3zJLK6s) is a gift article from the Washington Post with some thoughts of other possible candidates for 2024 besides Biden, a few of whom are indeed under 60, including Buttigieg and AOC. I feel better after reading this list of names - there are some good names in there. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/75 "2022-07-29T21:56:53Z")
Nominating AOC would be so god damn stupid. I was a fan of Booker until he voted against bringing down drug prices. While I think Sherrod Brown is a good candidate, a senator that can win in Ohio is a big deal. I think Whitmer and Buttigieg are strong as well. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/76 "2022-07-29T22:32:57Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Nominating AOC would be so god damn stupid. Agreed; and I _like_ AOC. I’d vote for her but Republicans would come out in _legion_ to prevent her from becoming president. She’s the current conservative boogeyman. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/77 "2022-07-30T00:14:02Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > > > Nominating AOC would be so god damn stupid. > > Agreed; and I _like_ AOC. Yeah same boat, she’s someone for the bullpen bench to be ready not that far down the road but it’s probably not her time _right now_. As of today with her I don’t yet feel the Bern, as it were (she’s got plenty time to develop that, though), and I would not want to risk “spending” her too quickly in a campaign where she would get just savaged and be a huge driver of R votes. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/78 "2022-08-05T03:44:50Z")
Just had another name cross my mind, though this one might be “too soon” for 2024 - but Jon Ossoff, who might have been a little bit of a surprise when he beat David Perdue in 2020 to help the Democrats get to 50 in the Senate. He of the [“It’s not just that you’re a crook, Senator”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxmkBRW_fPk) fame. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/79 "2022-08-05T04:14:15Z")
I’d much rather see Raphael Warnock. I’d love to see the right-wing evangelicals’ heads explode with an actual ordained minister, with a PhD, on the Democratic ticket. (Plus, everything I’ve seen from the guy just impresses the heck out of me.) A Warnock-Whitmer ticket would be A-OK with me, both under 60. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029/80 "2022-08-08T02:47:07Z")
Actually(in addition to Raphael Warnock mentioned above), we could go with two black men running. Michigan’s Lieutenant Governor is Garlin Gilchrist, who is very qualified and was born in, get this, 1982. Note: His Wikipedia picture is not so great in my opinion. > **[Garlin Gilchrist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garlin_Gilchrist)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Garlin Gilchrist II (born September 25, 1982) is an American politician and activist serving as the 64th lieutenant governor of Michigan since 2019. He is a member of the Democratic Party. > Gilchrist was born in Detroit. In 1982, his family moved to Farmington, Michigan. His mother worked at General Motors for 32 years and his father worked in defense contract management for the United States Department of Defense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/qualified-candidates-for-2024-potus-race-both-parties-under-60/964029.md?page=5)