# Quantum of Solace

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 14, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747 "2008-11-14T18:47:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/141 "2008-12-04T01:17:02Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Found the gratuitous crotch shot… odd. Is there something I’m missing? Have posted a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10525846#post10525846) about it.

In that thread, the consensus seems to be that she was wearing panties.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/142 "2008-12-04T02:53:58Z")

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I was wondering what the hydrogen fuel-cell people thought. There was a prominent product placement in the vehicle Bond and Bond-girl drove away in, but the destruction of the hotel made hydrogen look somewhat more hopped-up than TNT.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/143 "2008-12-04T05:19:02Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I was wondering what the hydrogen fuel-cell people thought. There was a prominent product placement in the vehicle Bond and Bond-girl drove away in, but the destruction of the hotel made hydrogen look somewhat more hopped-up than TNT.

You _know_ that the possibility that hydrogen fuel cells might explode violently is only going to _increase_ the marketability of it to many Bond fans.

_Perfect!_ I’ll use it to power my basement lair AND the self-destruct device!😃

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/144 "2008-12-04T08:34:08Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I was just amused at “according to me”. It was classy.  
> I’m a Wagner guy myself.

😉 Well, you do know one has to propagate ones own ideas.

(and my general knowledge of Opera is Zit - it’s just that I’ve played in Tosca that brings it to the top in my mind)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/145 "2008-12-04T16:21:23Z")

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I’ve never heard _Zit_. Was that by Puccini?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/146 "2008-12-04T20:00:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ve never heard _Zit_. Was that by Puccini?

_Zit_ is by PDQ Bach. It is about an itinerant camel driver in Bohemia who improbably falls in love with an Inn Keeper’s Heiress, Consuela Holiday Inn.  
The lovers are discovered in a tryst at a Motel Six in Buda Pest by her Nanny, and declare a suicide pact in three-four time including the haunting aria, “Stab Me First, Then I’ll Stab You…Wait a Minute.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/147 "2008-12-04T20:53:37Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> _Zit_ is by PDQ Bach. It is about an itinerant camel driver in Bohemia who improbably falls in love with an Inn Keeper’s Heiress, Consuela Holiday Inn.  
> The lovers are discovered in a tryst at a Motel Six in Buda Pest by her Nanny, and declare a suicide pact in three-four time including the haunting aria, “Stab Me First, Then I’ll Stab You…Wait a Minute.”

:: sniff ::

It sounds… wonderful.

:: blows nose ::

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/148 "2008-12-04T21:26:50Z")

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How the hell did I hijack…Oh, yeah. Would’ve been a lot funnier if she were named Budapest Holiday Inn. Dammit.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/149 "2008-12-04T21:45:21Z")

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> [@The Scrivener](#):
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> (Bond doesn’t do, or receive, oral, let alone anything else)

I don’t know about that…

In _From Russia with Love_, the Tatiana character (in bed with Bond) is trying to drag some easy flattery out of Bond when she says something along the lines of her mouth being to big, and Bond replies that it is just the right size for him.

In _Moonraker_, Dr. Goodhead asks Bond take “Take me around the world again.” If I recall correctly, going “around the world” is a euphemism for Oral, Anal, and vaginal all in the same session.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/150 "2008-12-04T22:08:55Z")

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You also missed the significance of the name “Goodhead”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/151 "2008-12-04T22:15:26Z")

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> [@The\_Scrivener](#):
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> Bond doesn’t do, or receive, oral, let alone anything else

He is, however, a cunning linguist.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/152 "2008-12-04T23:02:04Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> You also missed the significance of the name “Goodhead”

Nah, that just means she’s _smart_😃

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/153 "2008-12-07T08:24:15Z")

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> [@lawoot](#):
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> One scene that could have done with LESS action:
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> M has Bond removed after the death of Fields, they take his gun and gadgets, then gets he into the elevator with two (three? don’t remember) others. He then takes out the others, and gets their guns from them. Door opens, he steps out and kicks the leg of one of them back in the elevator so the door would shut. I think it would have been more in the spirit of Bond if we see the doors shut, and then cut IMMEDIATELY to the scene where he walks out of the elevator and kicks the guy’s leg back in.

I just saw the movie and was going to post this. Bond gets into the elevator with 4 guards, doors close, cut, doors open, Bond calmly walks out alone. It would have been perfect.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/154 "2008-12-07T18:29:33Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> I don’t know about that…
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> In _From Russia with Love_, the Tatiana character (in bed with Bond) is trying to drag some easy flattery out of Bond when she says something along the lines of her mouth being to big, and Bond replies that it is just the right size for him.

…Bond said, as he was lowering his lips to meet hers. Liplock ensued.

> [@mlees](#):
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> In _Moonraker_, Dr. Goodhead asks Bond take “Take me around the world again.” If I recall correctly, going “around the world” is a euphemism for Oral, Anal, and vaginal all in the same session.

Also contextually explained innocently enough; making love for an hour would take you around the earth again. Any kinkier explanations are merely propaganda by the KGB, SMERSH, or SPECTRE.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> You also missed the significance of the name “Goodhead”

That’s “\*Dr. \*Goodhead” to you, _Mister_…? 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quantum-of-solace/472747/155 "2008-12-07T18:40:46Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> I just saw the movie and was going to post this. Bond gets into the elevator with 4 guards, doors close, cut, doors open, Bond calmly walks out alone. It would have been perfect.

Naw, that would’ve been decried by us fanboys and -girls as a big cheat. I enjoy the OTT stunts like ski/parachuting off of Mt. Asgaard, hurling oneself over a cliff to catch up with a plane going down, and leaping from one construction crane arm to another, but that’s not the kind of audience-identifiable action that convincingly sells Bond as an agent/assassin who’s willing to get his hands dirty. Killing/disabling another assassin in a kitchen in improvised hand-to-hand combat (with some kitchen implements), or within the tight confines of an elevator with no weapons, does.

Any one of us could press a red button that makes things go “boom”; it takes someone with skills and ruthlessness to prevail with no vehicles, weapons or gadgets whatsoever.

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