# Quarter of Republicans believe Obama may be anti-Christ according to recent poll.

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**Created:** [March 25, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743 "2010-03-25T15:15:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/21 "2010-03-25T17:02:03Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> How many times do I have to tell you simpletons? If you ask Yale students if Harvard students fellate donkeys, they’re going to say yes. If you ask Red Sox fans if Yankee fans are thieves and rapists, they’re going to say yes.
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> If you ask Republicans if Obama is [something bad], they’re going to say yes. It doesn’t even matter what that “something bad” is. You can ask if he’s a Muslim, socialist, anti-Christ, or babykiller all you want. No matter how ridiculous, you’re going to get a yes _every time_.

I notice you didn’t claim that comparably large percentages of Democrats will believe comparably ridiculous things about Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/22 "2010-03-25T17:02:33Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Hooray! Another liberal circle-jerk in the Pit! Woohoo!
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> How many times do I have to tell you simpletons? If you ask Yale students if Harvard students fellate donkeys, they’re going to say yes. If you ask Red Sox fans if Yankee fans are thieves and rapists, they’re going to say yes.
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> If you ask Republicans if Obama is [something bad], they’re going to say yes. It doesn’t even matter what that “something bad” is. You can ask if he’s a Muslim, socialist, anti-Christ, or babykiller all you want. No matter how ridiculous, you’re going to get a yes _every time_.
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> **joebuck** , I hereby award you 35 Doper points. Welcome to the club, kid. Only 5720 more and you can get a handjob from the moderator of your choice!

Do you have examples of these polls involving Yale students and Red Sox fans? Or are you just saying that Republicans are the real simpletons in that they don’t actually think about questions they are asked, and just agree with outlandish suggestions with really thinking about them? Because it sure seems like that’s your defense of these people.

Or are you in some way trying to defend their viewpoint that Obama is the anti-Christ?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/23 "2010-03-25T17:06:49Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Hooray! Another liberal circle-jerk in the Pit! Woohoo!
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> How many times do I have to tell you simpletons? If you ask Yale students if Harvard students fellate donkeys, they’re going to say yes. If you ask Red Sox fans if Yankee fans are thieves and rapists, they’re going to say yes.
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> If you ask Republicans if Obama is [something bad], they’re going to say yes. It doesn’t even matter what that “something bad” is. You can ask if he’s a Muslim, socialist, anti-Christ, or babykiller all you want. No matter how ridiculous, you’re going to get a yes _every time_.
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> **joebuck** , I hereby award you 35 Doper points. Welcome to the club, kid. Only 5720 more and you can get a handjob from the moderator of your choice!

If that’s the case, why aren’t the republican numbers 100% all the way down? Why do only half as many republicans think he wants terrorists to win as think he’s a Muslim? If these results are just a product of peple fucking with pollsters, wouldn’t the railed at least be more uniform?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/24 "2010-03-25T17:15:42Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> How many times do I have to tell you simpletons? If you ask Yale students if Harvard students fellate donkeys, they’re going to say yes. If you ask Red Sox fans if Yankee fans are thieves and rapists, they’re going to say yes.

Funny. I thought there might be a few people who’d think about the question and respond based on what they know of the facts.

On the other hand, Yankee fans _are_ thieves and rapists.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/25 "2010-03-25T17:17:12Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Also people just screwing with the pollsters.

The ones who write in “Lizard People” on their ballots.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/26 "2010-03-25T17:18:24Z")

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How do you know a Yankee fan has burgled your house? Your garbage is missing and the dog has been raped! (fud-a-bump-_ting_!)

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/27 "2010-03-25T17:20:40Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> How many times do I have to tell you simpletons? If you ask Yale students if Harvard students fellate donkeys, they’re going to say yes. If you ask Red Sox fans if Yankee fans are thieves and rapists, they’re going to say yes.

That’s ridiculous. Harvard student sodomize donkeys, not fellate them. And the follow-up question regarding the Yankees was if they were arsonists and pedophiles. They are, of course. But then again, so are Red Sox fans.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/28 "2010-03-25T17:20:51Z")

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[Link of interest.](http://www.amazon.com/George-Bush-Antichrist-Stephen-Hanchett/dp/1411609832)

Please note that I am not trying to drum up sales for this gentleman.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/29 "2010-03-25T17:24:27Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I’m actually more concerned about the 6% of Democrats who think he’s the antichrist.

He MAY be the Anti-Christ. That’s what was asked if I’m not mistaken.  
If you’re the sort of person who believes in that particular version of the future, then he may be the Anti-Christ.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/30 "2010-03-25T17:27:23Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> [Link of interest.](http://www.amazon.com/George-Bush-Antichrist-Stephen-Hanchett/dp/1411609832)
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> Please note that I am not trying to drum up sales for this gentleman.

A hilarious link.

Cite for any poll of Democrats that showed remotely comparable numbers of Democrats believing lies and otherwise demonizing Bush II?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/31 "2010-03-25T17:27:54Z")

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I’d like to know which of you dumbfucks let the cat out of the bag. . .? :mad:

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/32 "2010-03-25T17:40:32Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> [Link of interest.](http://www.amazon.com/George-Bush-Antichrist-Stephen-Hanchett/dp/1411609832)
> 
> Please note that I am not trying to drum up sales for this gentleman.

Well, what do _you_ prop up short table legs with?

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/33 "2010-03-25T17:46:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Funny. I thought there might be a few people who’d think about the question and respond based on what they know of the facts.

See, that’s just it. If you want an intelligent response, you have to ask intelligent questions. You have to give people an opportunity to speak their mind. When given the option between “Obama is the antichrist” and “No, he isn’t”, people will pick the one that’s closest to expressing what they want to express, NOT what they think is factually accurate. You (well, maybe not you) look at the poll and say “A lot of people think Obama is the anti-Christ” while I look at the poll and say “A lot of people are expressing disapproval over the President.”

That’s also why it’s not 100% all the way down. Some people got their fill of Obama-bashing before they got to the anti-Christ question. They saw other options that allowed them to express the way they really feel.

To test this, you can just do the same poll twice. In one sample, give only half the questions. Like, maybe 3. In the other, give 10. I bet that in the 3-question survey, you’ll see a “discontent bunching factor”. Negative responses will increase in inverse proportion to how many ways the respondent _can_ answer negatively.

I’d look for a cite, but it’s just a vague recall from a PoliSci class from 2007 and I’m so firewalled at work, you’d think this was hell.

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/34 "2010-03-25T17:52:49Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> A hilarious link.
> 
> Cite for any poll of Democrats that showed remotely comparable numbers of Democrats believing lies and otherwise demonizing Bush II?

Ask and ye shall receive:  
[35% of Dems believe Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/35 "2010-03-25T17:53:43Z")

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Well, it’s an interesting theory, but IIRC Harris usually asks its poll questions in random order so that the respondents aren’t all answering the same ones when they’re all happy and excited to be being polled, and the last when they’re all impatient and ready to get back to _Matlock_ or fuckin’ or whatever.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/36 "2010-03-25T17:54:53Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, what do _you_ prop up short table legs with?

Dostoevsky.

Also, polls of Republicans need to be normalized based upon the [27% crazification factor](http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html). That probably accounts for a vast majority of the antichrist sentiment.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/37 "2010-03-25T17:57:04Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> [Link of interest.](http://www.amazon.com/George-Bush-Antichrist-Stephen-Hanchett/dp/1411609832)
> 
> Please note that I am not trying to drum up sales for this gentleman.

Yeah, that books ranking at number 2 million or so, really suggests that this is a meme that resonates with the democratic base. 😃

Not to mention a dimensionally distorted photograph with a title set in black Comic Sans centered aligned over high contrast images, suggests he typeset the cover himself in MS Word. The guy’s a crank who self-published.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/38 "2010-03-25T17:58:12Z")

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There has been more than one poll showing these same kind of results for the Obama Antichrist person. There is a significant minority of the American political right (and I will stress that it’s a _minority_, but I will also stress that it’s a _significant_ minority) who are deeply immersed in religious subculture with a largely fantastic and apocalyptic view of the world. They really think there’s going to be a rapture and a tribulation, and they really think there’s going to be an antichrist. It’s a tenet of antichrist beliefs that the antichrist will be a charaismatic and popular figure before he tiurns evil, so ity’s not at all shocking that they would view any popular and charaismatic politician as potentially being the Beast, especially when there’s a whiff of the exotic and the foreign associated with them.

Most Republicans, even the religious one don’t think this way, but the raorturist/endtimes subculture is not a tiny one, and, to the extent that it’s politicized, is almost all conservative.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/39 "2010-03-25T17:59:23Z")

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> [@Slypork](#):
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> Ask and ye shall receive:  
> [35% of Dems believe Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)

[That one is true.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_advanced-knowledge_debate#Intelligence_warnings) The Administration was told pretty much everything except the date and the flight numbers.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/40 "2010-03-25T18:00:24Z")

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> [@Slypork](#):
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> Ask and ye shall receive:  
> [35% of Dems believe Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)

Aw come on, man. You know the apologists will be along shortly to say cracked-out stuff about how Bush had a report about Bin Laden attacking the US, and how that’s exactly the same thing as “knowing about 9/11 ahead of time”. We’ve been down that road before.

And I actually just now read the article posted in the OP (I’d seen this report elsewhere). I can’t believe you read the part about how it was an online poll, how you had to answer the poll to win free stuff, and how it was used to “verify” an author’s nutjob ideas in his latest book, and you STILL posted it here.

But hey, whatever gets you brownie points with the Dopeville liberal mafia, amirite?

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