# Quarter of Republicans believe Obama may be anti-Christ according to recent poll.

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**Created:** [March 25, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743 "2010-03-25T15:15:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/41 "2010-03-25T18:01:30Z")

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> [@Slypork](#):
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> Ask and ye shall receive:  
> [35% of Dems believe Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)

This isn’t the same thing at all. Believing that Bush knew the attcks were coming is not the same as believing he was IN on them. In point of fact, it’s indisputable that he knew Osama bin Laden was going to attack America. The only question is how specific that knowledge was. This is a nice try, but it’s not on point and not what was asked for. Try again.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/42 "2010-03-25T18:01:35Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Also, polls of Republicans need to be normalized based upon the [27% crazification factor](http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html). That probably accounts for a vast majority of the antichrist sentiment.

That is brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/43 "2010-03-25T18:03:51Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Aw come on, man. You know the apologists will be along shortly to say cracked-out stuff about how Bush had a report about Bin Laden attacking the US, and how that’s exactly the same thing as “knowing about 9/11 ahead of time”. We’ve been down that road before.
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> And I actually just now read the article posted in the OP (I’d seen this report elsewhere). I can’t believe you read the part about how it was an online poll, how you had to answer the poll to win free stuff, and how it was used to “verify” an author’s nutjob ideas in his latest book, and you STILL posted it here.
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> But hey, whatever gets you brownie points with the Dopeville liberal mafia, amirite?

Can you actually show how the methodology was flawed? You’re remarking on superfical aspects that don’t discredit the poll in and of themselves?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/44 "2010-03-25T18:05:31Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> And I actually just now read the article posted in the OP (I’d seen this report elsewhere). I can’t believe you read the part about how it was an online poll, how you had to answer the poll to win free stuff, and how it was used to “verify” an author’s nutjob ideas in his latest book, and you STILL posted it here.

All Harris polls used an incentive system, and they turn out the same results as Gallup _et al_ for the most part.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/45 "2010-03-25T18:11:24Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I know we should not cross post but I think this merits it:
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> [Hitler discovers Republicans have no ideas](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQGBYY6HVMs) 😃

Damn, I thought that one would actually keep the “Stalin” in there.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/46 "2010-03-25T18:22:30Z")

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You know, to take **Chessic Sense** ’s point, the pollsters should include a few bat-shit crazy level type questions, just to see what Pubbies will respond “Hell, yes” to. Loopy questions like “Do you think the Obama family has cloven hooves?” or “Do you think the President pees turquoise?” so we can establish a baseline for batshit-insanity.

Or do you suppose maybe they did that with the Anti-Christ question, and that answer is the batshit-insane baseline?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/47 "2010-03-25T18:30:54Z")

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> [@Slypork](#):
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> Ask and ye shall receive:  
> [35% of Dems believe Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)

That’s not remotely comparable. Saying Bush “knew about 9/11 in advance” (actually, the question wasn’t asked quite so directly, IIRC) is not remotely comparable to:

55% Obama has done many things that are unconstitutional.  
51% Obama wants to turn the U.S. over to a one-world government.  
45% Obama was not born in the U.S. and is not eligible to be president.  
47% Obama resents America’s heritage.  
45% Obama is a “domestic enemy” as spoken of in the Constitution.  
42% Obama is a racist.  
41% Obama is Anti-American.  
41% Obama wants to use the economic collapse as an excuse to grab dictatorial powers.

Batshit. Crazy.

[Link](http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?s=culture&c=news&l=on&pic=obama-antichrist-poll-100325-02.jpg&cap=SIDE-BY-SIDE:+From+seeing+President+Obama+as+a+Socialist+to+the+Antichrist,+the+diverging+views+held+by+Republicans,+Democrats+and+Independents,+as+reported+by+the+new+Harris+poll.+Graphic+by+LiveScience&title=).

Also, there _were_ reasonable warnings to which W. Bush could have paid heed, before 9/11, which he seems to have ignored but it is reasonable to assume he did hear about them at some point. The original question if I recall (Google fu is failing me right now) could plausibly include that scenario.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/48 "2010-03-25T18:34:44Z")

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Speaking of that poll, it’s funny that among Democrats, where there are supposedly some real socialists, only 14% say Obama is socialist.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/49 "2010-03-25T18:42:16Z")

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I’m surprised no one has commented on the 68% “Yes” responses to the question, “Has Obama ever kicked your dog?”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/50 "2010-03-25T18:48:02Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> This isn’t the same thing at all. Believing that Bush knew the attcks were coming is not the same as believing he was IN on them. In point of fact, it’s indisputable that he knew Osama bin Laden was going to attack America.

Just because he was shown a report with the information in it doesn’t mean he knew it. This is W and and you have to make allowances.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/51 "2010-03-25T18:54:23Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Speaking of that poll, it’s funny that among Democrats, where there are supposedly some real socialists, only 14% say Obama is socialist.

Why? I know incredibly few Democrats who would self-identify as socialists. And any socialists I do know don’t think Obama is one.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/52 "2010-03-25T19:08:07Z")

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If Obama really is the anti-Christ that means August 4 (his birthday) is anti-Christmas and there’s only 4 more months to shop.

So do you give gifts on Anti-Christmas? Or force the rich to redistribute gifts or what?

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/53 "2010-03-25T19:15:20Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> On the other hand, Yankee fans _are_ thieves and rapists.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> How do you know a Yankee fan has burgled your house? Your garbage is missing and the dog has been raped! (fud-a-bump-_ting_!)

Hey!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/54 "2010-03-25T20:23:55Z")

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I can hardly wait until the 2011 clock ticks out and the true psychotics put on their tinfoil hats and wait for Armageddon to strike, Obama to sprout horns and a tail, and the rapture to occur all at once. I’ll lay in an extra box of .12 ga slugs just in case the crazies take to the streets. Or maybe just sit on the porch and enjoy the show.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/55 "2010-03-25T20:45:37Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’ll lay in an extra box of .12 ga slugs just in case the crazies take to the streets. Or maybe just sit on the porch and enjoy the show.

See, that’s the funny part of that whole thing. The nutters will go stock up on ammo and the sane will…go stock up on ammo. How will I know friend from foe?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/56 "2010-03-25T20:48:55Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Why? I know incredibly few Democrats who would self-identify as socialists. And any socialists I do know don’t think Obama is one.

That’s the point.

The right: “Obama is a socialist!”  
The left: “Socialist? I _know_ socialists! I _am_ a socialist! And Obama is no socialist!”

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/57 "2010-03-25T20:49:36Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> See, that’s the funny part of that whole thing. The nutters will go stock up on ammo and the sane will…go stock up on ammo. How will I know friend from foe?

“Let God sort 'em out.” – Arnaud Amalric, sort of.

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**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/58 "2010-03-25T20:51:24Z")

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People are asking the question. Come on, Mr. Obama, _if you really aren’t the Antichrist,_ all you have to do is shave your head and show that you don’t have the **666 Mark of the Devil.** Me, I’m just asking questions, echoing what a lot of Americans are already concerned about. I hope that the man who is responsible for safeguarding American citizens **isn’t** the Antichrist, which is why I so desperately want him to prove it to us.

But… Mr. Obama chooses not to. Which kind of makes you wonder…

_Man, this is shit is really easy._

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/59 "2010-03-25T20:51:46Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> That’s the point.
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> The right: “Obama is a socialist!”  
> The left: “Socialist? I _know_ socialists! I _am_ a socialist! And Obama is no socialist!”

I’m sorry. I see what you mean now. I’m not feeling very bright today…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quarter-of-republicans-believe-obama-may-be-anti-christ-according-to-recent-poll/533743/60 "2010-03-25T20:55:34Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> [That one is true.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_advanced-knowledge_debate#Intelligence_warnings) The Administration was told pretty much everything except the date and the flight numbers.

Dude,

Thats kinda the most important part of the whole thing.

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