# Quartz

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840 "2019-02-19T16:51:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/1 "2019-02-19T16:51:25Z")

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Seriously mate, what is the point of you?

You’re a pathetic Brexit cultist.

You insist against all evidence that Brexit means Brexit without any irony about how dumb that sounds.

You simply refuse to address any evidence that all forms of Brexit harm, and insist there’s a majority for a hard Brexit despite all evidence to the contrary.

People like you are ruining the UK. You’re on the same level as climate change deniers, flat earthers and Trumpists.

Can you just go away, please? Your contributions, if that’s what we can charitably call them, to the Brexit debate are just corrosive and the opposite of helpful. The Straight Dope is about fighting ignorance, but you are doing the opposite.  
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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/2 "2019-02-19T16:55:00Z")

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A=A bro.

A=A

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/3 "2019-02-19T16:57:50Z")

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Looks like SOMEONE is setting themselves up for an insult tip.

He might even pile on, criticizing your Hollandaise as having “[no discernible lemon](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834102).”

(A comment that is the most memorable insult I have ever read on this message board.)

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/4 "2019-02-19T16:58:46Z")

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Here’s what I said (and what he reported):

> [@](#):
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> I’m forced to speculate, because he won’t answer the question, but if he’d like to fill us in, he’s welcome to. 🙂

Given this recent performance, that’s entirely too charitable. Here’s what I should have said:

> [@](#):
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> I’m forced to speculate, because you’re a dishonest sack of shit who wouldn’t know honest intellectual debate if it bit your dick off.

This isn’t the first time we’ve had this conversation, either. I’m so sorry for wasting everyone’s time responding to him.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/5 "2019-02-19T17:10:20Z")

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I reported the “Reported”, because that kind of passive-aggressive fuckwittery should fuck right out of GD.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/6 "2019-02-19T17:11:50Z")

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I bet he hit report to tell **Bone** that he didn’t like the way the debate was playing out.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/7 "2019-02-19T17:24:58Z")

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He’s a pompous twat who has been bugging my tits off on here for fucking years.

He seems to have absolutely no comprehension of the complexities of Brexit, and in previous threads he’s “stepped away” when challenged by those who do, rather than make any effort to learn. (kudos to you all btw - you’ve far more patience than me)

It’s infuriating behaviour, it really is.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/8 "2019-02-19T17:38:58Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Looks like SOMEONE is setting themselves up for an insult tip.
> 
> He might even pile on, criticizing your Hollandaise as having “[no discernible lemon](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834102).”
> 
> (A comment that is the most memorable insult I have ever read on this message board.)

Hah, I had missed that.  
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/9 "2019-02-19T17:44:46Z")

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No doubt the OP has said a whole load of nasty lies about me but since he’s on my ignore list I don’t see them.

You guys just don’t like people disagreeing with you. You don’t believe in democracy - unless the people vote the way you want.

I have a very simple position on Brexit. It’s apparently too simple for everyone. Your lack of comprehension is your problem, not mine.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/10 "2019-02-19T17:48:55Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> He might even pile on, criticizing your Hollandaise as having “[no discernible lemon](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834102).”

That’s brilliant. I am adding “your Hollandaise has no discernible lemon” to my list of put-downs for my mortal enemies.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/11 "2019-02-19T17:49:22Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> No doubt the OP has said a whole load of nasty lies about me but since he’s on my ignore list I don’t see them.
> 
> You guys just don’t like people disagreeing with you. You don’t believe in democracy - unless the people vote the way you want.
> 
> I have a very simple position on Brexit. It’s apparently too simple for everyone. Your lack of comprehension is your problem, not mine.

Your position leaves no flexibility on trying to avoid likely very significant damage to your country. Democracy is not a suicide pact. If the majority voted for nuclear destruction, responsible members of government would still try to avoid nuclear destruction. Representative democracy means that elected representatives can and should do what’s best for the country, even if it might conflict with majority will (and especially if there are indications that the “majority will” determination was highly flawed, and that the present majority will might well be different). That doesn’t conflict with the concept of democratic government.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/12 "2019-02-19T17:53:50Z")

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IIRC, **Quartz** is also the guy who suggested nuking Argentina to defend the Falklands. Also, nuking Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq.

EDIT: In this thread: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819358](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819358)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/13 "2019-02-19T18:04:57Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> No doubt the OP has said a whole load of nasty lies about me but since he’s on my ignore list I don’t see them.
> 
> You guys just don’t like people disagreeing with you. You don’t believe in democracy - unless the people vote the way you want.
> 
> I have a very simple position on Brexit. It’s apparently too simple for everyone. Your lack of comprehension is your problem, not mine.

I’ve read many of your posts and have never come away with the impression that you are all that happy with people who disagree _with you_. Just sayin’.

In any event, I don’t have a dog in this fight except to say that I’m mildly amused by your lame evasions to avoid answering the yes or no question “Did the British people vote to unilaterally abandon all EU treaties and trade deals?”

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/14 "2019-02-19T18:14:23Z")

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Quartz is a limited person with a simplistic understanding of the world. He gets frightened and angry by the modern world and likes to make the simplistic statements, but runs away when they are shown to be stupid and wrong, I think of his silly pat on head argument about Cameron…

It is all sentiment and superficiality.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/15 "2019-02-19T18:16:07Z")

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But at least Dibble and I can be happy he’s forgotten his never ending series of hand wringing about the whites in southern africa…

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/16 "2019-02-19T18:27:43Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> In any event, I don’t have a dog in this fight except to say that I’m mildly amused by your lame evasions to avoid answering the yes or no question “Did the British people vote to unilaterally abandon all EU treaties and trade deals?”

I didn’t evade it. There was no vote on that question.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/17 "2019-02-19T18:31:46Z")

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Oh, I had no idea he’d blocked me. Bit rich seeing as how he claims we don’t like people disagreeing with us. Funny!

Can someone tell him we are happy with disagreement, but we expect our counterparts to actually debate with facts and evidence and not stamp his feet impotently and expect his fantasies to be treated as equivalent to reality?

Once again, climate change deniers, flat earthers, trumpists come to mind.  
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/18 "2019-02-19T18:33:42Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> IIRC, **Quartz** is also the guy who suggested nuking Argentina to defend the Falklands. Also, nuking Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq.
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> EDIT: In this thread: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819358](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819358)

And your problem is? The threat of nukes is currently the only real deterrent against Argentina should they become aggressive. And nukes would have stopped the Korean and Vietnam wars very quickly.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/19 "2019-02-19T18:51:28Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I didn’t evade it. There was no vote on that question.

Which means a Brexit with free movement and single market membership intact meets the referendum, at least, far more than hard Brexit does.

Someone tell him that?  
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quartz/829840/20 "2019-02-19T18:53:32Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> Which means a Brexit with free movement and single market membership intact meets the referendum, at least, far more than hard Brexit does.
> 
> Someone tell him that?  
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Man, if only there was some way to know what “brexit” means.

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