# Queen Elizabeth celebrates 60 years as monarch

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896 "2012-02-05T21:56:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/101 "2012-06-04T02:48:49Z")

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> [@Candyman74](#):
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> How many US presidents has the Queen met?
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> I remember one of them - Clinton? - saying that meeting her was intimidating because in the role of President you don’t meet many people who are able to directly compare you to a bunch of your predecessors.

I read a piece that said Elizabeth has actually been quite useful diplomatically for the UK and her allies because of this. She is apparently a fairly shrewd woman and her longevity and the number of Heads of State she’s met had her able to get a read on people very quickly. There aren’t very many people with her length and depth of experience in international politics (frankly, none ever, due to the advantage of communications and transportation of the 20th century), and since she is widely regarded as a mere figurehead, she gets sort of a stealth role.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/102 "2012-06-04T13:06:24Z")

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Here’s a good slideshow on a year in the life of the Queen: [A date with the queen: How the queen spends her year](http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/05/specials/date.with.the.queen/?iid=article_sidebar)

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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/103 "2012-06-04T21:09:23Z")

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> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#):
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> No, it sounds like he’s suggesting a judicial execution. like King Charles, or King Louis in France. Executions are not murder.

Tomato tomahto. The point was he was advocating death.

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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/104 "2012-06-04T21:17:30Z")

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> [@ianzin](#):
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> Yes, I do. I understand it perfectly, thanks.

Clearly not, because…

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> also receives income through ownership of land.

… this is not true. The income from the Royal Estates goes to you, the taxpayer, and vastly exceeds the civil list income which they receive in exchange for it.

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> Which Brits? I’m one, and I don’t think she’s done well, and I know many more who feel exactly the same way. How many Brits have you discussed this with?

This Brit. I’m one, and you categorically do not speak for me.

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> I am expressing my opinion that the Queen is a disgusting and anachronistic parasite who soaks up vast amounts of money that could be better spent elsewhere, and on people who deserve it, and that she doesn’t even do her job well.

How obnoxious. Your debating skills seem to revolve around saying stuff that isn’t true (I won’t presume to guess whether that’s actual ignorance or just dishonesty) and calling people names.

I reiterate, you do not speak for me.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/105 "2012-06-04T21:22:26Z")

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> [@Candyman74](#):
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> Are you really suggesting murdering the Queen? Charming.

LOL, if the Tower of London was being used as her prison cell prior to execution, it is an official act.

Just saying that a country can always try and execute someone if they really want to push it. Cromwell managed, the French managed to kill off most of their nobility and a heck of a lot of other citoyens, Russia managed to off most of their nobility as well.

At least we didn’t execute any royalty, we kicked them out [and I am a she not a he]

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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/106 "2012-06-04T21:42:02Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> LOL, if the Tower of London was being used as her prison cell prior to execution, it is an official act.
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> Just saying that a country can always try and execute someone if they really want to push it. Cromwell managed, the French managed to kill off most of their nobility and a heck of a lot of other citoyens, Russia managed to off most of their nobility as well.

Yes. These are bad things. We don’t do that any more. Because they’re bad things. Advocating it is also a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/107 "2012-06-04T22:00:28Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Fine for you to say. You already have your republic. Here in Canada, getting rid of the monarchy, or even caring about the monarchy, takes up about 0.00000001% of the public’s interest. Far more important this past few weeks was the rearrangement of Tim Hortons cup sizes.

In Canada we get the Queen as the embodiment of the Crown (the state) pretty much paid for by England. How nice of them to pay the bill.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/108 "2012-06-04T22:02:50Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> Talking about cup sizes in a thread about the Queen just seems…wrong.

One of the nice things about going to school in the 60s was having a photo of a babe with ever so bodacious ta-tas looking down on you.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/109 "2012-06-04T23:03:50Z")

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> [@Candyman74](#):
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> The income from the Royal Estates goes to you, the taxpayer, and vastly exceeds the civil list income which they receive in exchange for it.

That comparison only works if you assume that before George III made that “exchange,” the Crown Estate went solely to pay for the upkeep of the royal household. IIRC, it just went into a big pot of money, and many other non-military expenses came out of it, and George III basically just allowed it to all be put on one set of books.

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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/110 "2012-06-04T23:45:15Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> That comparison only works if you assume that before George III made that “exchange,” the Crown Estate went solely to pay for the upkeep of the royal household. IIRC, it just went into a big pot of money, and many other non-military expenses came out of it, and George III basically just allowed it to all be put on one set of books.

I don’t understand what you just said.

In other news, the light show and fireworks at the Jubilee Concert were very impressive.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/111 "2012-06-04T23:55:05Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> One of the nice things about going to school in the 60s was having a photo of a babe with ever so bodacious ta-tas looking down on you.

So the tiara didn’t diminish your ardour?

[http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryassets/aisledash/966375/queen-elizabeth-girls-britain-ireland-tiara-620kb122010.jpg](http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryassets/aisledash/966375/queen-elizabeth-girls-britain-ireland-tiara-620kb122010.jpg)

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/112 "2012-06-05T02:33:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> So the tiara didn’t diminish your ardour?
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> [http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryassets/aisledash/966375/queen-elizabeth-girls-britain-ireland-tiara-620kb122010.jpg](http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryassets/aisledash/966375/queen-elizabeth-girls-britain-ireland-tiara-620kb122010.jpg)

To be honest, I am just not overly fond of diamonds [I need to turn in my girl card, I guess] I would prefer opals. But that is a lovely portrait of her. I have seen much worse formal portraits of people. She was quite the looker when young. So, what happened with Charles:confused:

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/113 "2012-06-05T02:49:08Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> To be honest, I am just not overly fond of diamonds [I need to turn in my girl card, I guess] I would prefer opals. But that is a lovely portrait of her. I have seen much worse formal portraits of people. She was quite the looker when young. So, what happened with Charles:confused:

I always figured that she was a bit too much of a horse fancier, so one day when that Greek fellow wasn’t looking . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/114 "2012-06-05T06:34:01Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> I don’t suppose she feels like celebrating all that much – it is the 60th anniversary of her dad’s death after all.

No, that was in February.

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/115 "2012-06-05T06:40:48Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [QUOTE=Springtime for Spacers]  
> I don’t suppose she feels like celebrating all that much – it is the 60th anniversary of her dad’s death after all.

No, that was in February.  
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As was the OP…?

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/116 "2012-06-05T08:05:22Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> In Canada we get the Queen as the embodiment of the Crown (the state) pretty much paid for by England. How nice of them to pay the bill.

I recall, as an elementary school student, that we had a photo portrait of the Queen in every classroom. I still see her portrait when I enter the local courthouse.

Perhaps I should thank the UK for footing the bill for our head of state. Thanks UK! 😃

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/117 "2012-06-05T12:45:21Z")

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> [@Candyman74](#):
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> In other news, the light show and fireworks at the Jubilee Concert were very impressive.

The projection onto Buck House when Madness were playing Our House was genuinely stunning.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/118 "2012-06-05T13:50:00Z")

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Like this?: [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--l9\_T69LaRw/TbsaprEQUsI/AAAAAAAAGX4/yvl0f-Gyofw/s1600/P1010017+%25282%2529.JPG](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--l9_T69LaRw/TbsaprEQUsI/AAAAAAAAGX4/yvl0f-Gyofw/s1600/P1010017+%25282%2529.JPG)

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/119 "2012-06-05T15:03:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Like this?: [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--l9\_T69LaRw/TbsaprEQUsI/AAAAAAAAGX4/yvl0f-Gyofw/s1600/P1010017+%25282%2529.JPG](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--l9_T69LaRw/TbsaprEQUsI/AAAAAAAAGX4/yvl0f-Gyofw/s1600/P1010017+%25282%2529.JPG)

Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6BEW2LuX3-M?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-60-years-as-monarch/611896/120 "2012-06-05T15:27:55Z")

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Ooo, cool - thanks!

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