# Queen Elizabeth crashes a wedding

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 27, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902 "2012-03-27T01:12:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/21 "2012-03-27T14:33:18Z")

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You do \*not \*want to let Philip anywhere near the open bar.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/22 "2012-03-27T14:39:26Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Her Maj strikes me as a very nice girl (though she doesn’t have a lot to say), and I have always been on Team Camilla. Classic no-nonsense dowager.

Neither the Queen nor Camilla are dowagers.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/23 "2012-03-27T14:58:42Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Neither the Queen nor Camilla are dowagers.

Of \*course \*they are, dear, as am I. In the Margaret Dumont/Mrs. Drysdale sense of the word.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/24 "2012-03-27T15:01:08Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Neither the Queen nor Camilla are dowagers.

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> (2) an elderly woman of stately dignity, especially one of elevated social position.

From [here.](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dowager?s=t)

I’m a purist myself, but I think this battle is lost.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/25 "2012-03-27T15:54:54Z")

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Wasn’t there a story a few years back about the Queen corresponding with a young girl who’d sent a letter out via balloon in search of a pen pal. The balloon landed on the property of one of the Queen’s estates and Her Majesty became pen pals with the girl.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/26 "2012-03-27T16:06:36Z")

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I went looking for Royal news and found this:

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> COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) – Britain’s Duchess of Cornwall has visited the set of the TV series “The Killing,” where she was greeted by Danish actress Sofie Graaboel in her trademark off-white-and-black sweater. Meanwhile, Prince Charles and Crown Prince Frederik, heir to Europe’s oldest monarchy, visited **a carbon-neutral kindergarten** near Copenhagen.

Where the kiddies are taught not to give a damn one way or the other about carbon.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/27 "2012-03-27T16:19:45Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I went looking for Royal news and found this:
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> Where the kiddies are taught not to give a damn one way or the other about carbon.

No it just means none of the kids were allowed to fart that day

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/28 "2012-03-27T16:20:11Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Her Royal Highness? :dubious:
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> “Her Majesty” is the correct form - though she is also Duke of Normandy and Lord of Mann.

Apologies to her Majesty - I’m a Yank, what do I know? Although poking around a bit, it seems that “Royal Highness” is perhaps used to refer to Prince and Princesses? She was apparently “Her Royal Highness Princess Elizabeth” at birth, and upgraded to “Her Royal Highness **The** Princess Elizabeth” when she became the heir.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/29 "2012-03-27T16:32:54Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Apologies to her Majesty - I’m a Yank, what do I know? Although poking around a bit, it seems that “Royal Highness” is perhaps used to refer to Prince and Princesses? She was apparently “Her Royal Highness Princess Elizabeth” at birth, and upgraded to “Her Royal Highness **The** Princess Elizabeth” when she became the heir.

They’re “Brenda and her Greek sailor” to their friends.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/30 "2012-03-27T17:05:27Z")

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> [@jabiru](#):
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> I like Charles. I do realise, though, that I am probably the only person in the British Commonwealth of Nations who does.

I like Charles as well, and I think he’ll make a perfectly good king. His mum doesn’t look like giving him the chance any time soon, though. Less than three and a half more years to go and she’ll be the longest serving monarch in British history.

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/31 "2012-03-27T18:18:10Z")

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> > Quote:  
> > Originally Posted by jabiru  
> > I like Charles. I do realise, though, that I am probably the only person in the British Commonwealth of Nations who does.
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> I like Charles as well, and I think he’ll make a perfectly good king. His mum doesn’t look like giving him the chance any time soon, though. Less than three and a half more years to go and she’ll be the longest serving monarch in British history.

A very kind and classy act by the queen.

And count this particular yank as a long-time admirer of Charles as well. He had every opportunity to be a playboy prince as so many others have been, but instead chose to make as his life’s work the serious business of advancing the cause of historic preservation and sustainable agriculture. His work with the Duchy of Cornwall has been impressive, and he has been a tireless advocate of a very worthy cause.  
SS

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/32 "2012-03-27T18:28:44Z")

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“Elevated social position”? I’d say the Queen pretty much _defines_ “elevated social position”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/33 "2012-03-27T19:54:52Z")

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I have to admit, [that’s a helluva wedding picture.](http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/4/3/0/5/3/5/Queen-Crashes-Wedding-72650817748.jpeg#Queen%20Crashes%20Wedding) I bet she’s glad she didn’t go with [this wedding dress now.](http://steelturman.typepad.com/thesteeldeal/images/2008/11/06/huge_titsbig_boobs_hooters_honkers.png) 😃 (NSFW if your work is stuffy about boobs hanging out.)

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/34 "2012-03-27T20:06:02Z")

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I wish she had crashed my wedding. With the corgis.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/35 "2012-03-27T20:25:28Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Is it technically crashing a wedding if you are invited, decline, and show up anyway?

I think it’s definitely crashing, and if it wasn’t the Queen (or someone else who would be a great unexpected surprise), there would probably be an SDMB thread about those obnoxious people who sent back the card saying that they wouldn’t be coming and then showed up expecting to be fed.

But since it is the Queen, I think it’s a great story, even if she did crash.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/36 "2012-03-27T20:26:32Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I bet she’s glad she didn’t go with [this wedding dress now.](http://steelturman.typepad.com/thesteeldeal/images/2008/11/06/huge_titsbig_boobs_hooters_honkers.png) 😃 (NSFW if your work is stuffy about boobs hanging out.)

Yeah, wearing a copy of the queens old dress would have been tacky.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/37 "2012-03-27T21:56:38Z")

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> [@MarcusF](#):
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> Agreed. Charles is ok. (Oh - and I never could stand Diana. He’s much better off with Camilla.)

Wow. We must be the only two people in the universe who think this.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/38 "2012-03-27T22:54:00Z")

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> [@jabiru](#):
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> Wow. We must be the only two people in the universe who think this.

Three.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/39 "2012-03-27T22:57:35Z")

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I invited the old bitty to my high school graduation and she never even sent a card. I think she’s prejudiced against non-subjects.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-crashes-a-wedding/616902/40 "2012-03-27T23:28:07Z")

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> [@MarcusF](#):
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> Agreed. Charles is ok. (Oh - and I never could stand Diana. He’s much better off with Camilla.)

[QUOTE=jabiru]  
Wow. We must be the only two people in the universe who think this.  
[/quote]  
I have a great deal of empathy for Diana and think that her life was a terrible and unnecessary tragedy, but I think it’s pretty clear that _everyone_ (except possibly the tabloid media) would have been immensely better off if Charles had just married Camilla in the first place and avoided all of the ugliness.

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