# Queer As Folk (Potential Spoiler Alert)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 7, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490 "2005-07-07T18:37:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/21 "2005-07-15T16:22:24Z")

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> [@Licentious Ectomorph](#):
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> I’ve never perceived a “holier-than-though” attitude from Michael.

:smack: That’s holier-than-THOU.

At least I got it right the second time.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/22 "2005-07-15T18:14:53Z")

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Of course Michael yelling for help could be to help him rescue somebody else.

They’ll probably kill one of the lesbians. Nobody watches them anyway. Hell, even Debbie probably wouldn’t know whether it was the blonde one or the Jewish one until she got to the coffin and looked in… “Oh, that one, damned shame… where do I put the ravioli?”

Or it could be her husband the cop who dies.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/23 "2005-07-15T18:16:40Z")

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What I hate about Michael (other than Hal Sparks, smirking little no-talent monkey) is that he wants some Brian ass so bad he can’t see straight, but convinces himself it’s platonic love. Why any lover would put up with that is beyond me.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Justin killed if it just had to be somebody. He’s the most annoying character on the show after Michael.

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**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/24 "2005-07-15T18:57:04Z")

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I’ll agree Justin can be a little hard to like sometimes, but he’s alright. Hell, even Hunter grew on me.

But all this Mikey-hatin’ upsets me. ☹

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/25 "2005-07-15T19:31:10Z")

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I attribute most of Justin’s annoyingness to his age. He’ll grow out of it as he matures. It’s too late for Michael, it seems. He should have stayed gone with the good Doctor.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/26 "2005-07-15T20:13:43Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> But, assuming that Babylon gets firebombed, what would bring Hunter to Babylon? It makes no dramatic sense for Hunter to be there.

Yes, but when I wrote that, I didn’t know yet about the Babylon fire-bombing. Then you told me about the scenes for next week, but I was just explaining my reasoning for initially picking Hunter.

You’re right, it would be strange to have Hunter show up at Babylon just in time to get blown up. Plus, Hunter’s not really a major character. His death would certainly upset everyone, especially Ben, but it wouldn’t really devastate the whole group.

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> Ted’s spent the last couple of seasons getting his life together. He’s not the schmuck he used to be, not to mention that Ted is probably the character most of the audience can most easily identify with.

Has he really gotten himself back together? It seems like _now_ he finally has, but up until the last couple episodes, he’s still been screwing with everything. He came out of drug rehab and formed an unhealthy dependancy on his old boyfriend/drug counselor, then he started overeating, then became obsessed with his body & got massive “work” done on himself. It’s only now that he seems to be leveling out. It would be just his luck, as soon as he’s got himself together, he gets blown up.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/27 "2005-07-15T20:19:23Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> It would be just his luck, as soon as he’s got himself together, he gets blown up.

That’s Ted all over…

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**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/28 "2005-07-15T20:30:05Z")

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My two cents:

My theory is that it’s Drew that dies. Maybe I’m overly dramatic but all that possible foreshadowing in the last episode had my gears turning. Emmett keeps referring to Drew as “my hero” and Drew kept going on about how teammates stick together and help/protect eachother. He told Emmett he was on “his team” So I think Drew will die or be seriously injured saving others in the exlposion. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/29 "2005-07-15T20:47:44Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> That’s Ted all over…

_That_ was terrible! Shame on you!  
😛

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/30 "2005-07-15T20:52:39Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> _That_ was terrible! Shame on you!  
> 😛

I’m supposed to resist the biggest, juiciest straight line I’ve seen in MONTHS?!

HAH! As if!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/31 "2005-07-15T21:09:48Z")

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A second vote for Drew. It’s the most dramatic story line.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/32 "2005-07-15T21:24:05Z")

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They _have_ made a point about Drew’s never having been to Babylon, and Emmett had that fantasy episode where he brings Drew to Babylon and everyone is shocked and drooling over him.

Could be. In real life, football players don’t successfully come out, so it makes sense that Drew’s coming out will have to end poorly.

I’m planning on hating the show after that, though.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/33 "2005-07-15T21:37:54Z")

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This was, believe it or not, one of my father’s favorite jokes:

Man 1: Did you hear they just elected a new Pope? He’s Irish.

Man 2: Oh really?

Man 1: No, O’Reilly.  
Daddy was many things, but… wacky and zany weren’t two of them.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/34 "2005-07-15T21:39:30Z")

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Oops- ignore the above, it was meant for another forum.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/35 "2005-07-15T22:01:00Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Could be. In real life, football players don’t successfully come out, so it makes sense that Drew’s coming out will have to end poorly.  
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Well none while they were still playing. Esera Tuaolo, David Kopay and Roy Simmons are former players who left the closet after their playing days.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/36 "2005-07-15T22:14:03Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> Well none while they were still playing. Esera Tuaolo, David Kopay and Roy Simmons are former players who left the closet after their playing days.

That’s pretty much what I meant. I won’t pretend I know much about the football world, but from what I’ve read, those players that came out are pretty much “dead” to the football community. Which doesn’t bode well for Drew.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/37 "2005-07-17T06:00:27Z")

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Maybe I wasn’t paying attention, but from the previews, I didn’t get the idea anybody…well, at least any of the main characters…die. I think the blast is designed to get media coverage to swing the vote on Prop 14. Then again, my earlier reference to The Front Runner (anybody who hasn’t read it, should - quite good in a romance novel kind of way)…anyway, I would suggest if anybody gets offed, it would be Drew for the same reason…big tough football player gets killed and only after he dies do his teammates realize they were wrong and they come together to defeat Prop 14.

All speculation on my part, but with only 5 episodes left, they gotta do something dramatic other than show Debbie delivering cannolli.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/38 "2005-07-17T07:37:52Z")

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Well maybe if she delivered them vaginally…

Now I’m all curious about those scenes, which I don’t have on tape along with the ep. My POS through-the-TV program guide is so deficient that it has no synopsis for an ep that’s going to air in 18 hours. No synopsis on the website other than a reminder that Cyndi Lauper will be performing (yay! which I forgot about from the previews).

I don’t think anything’s going to happen to Drew (at least nothing fatal) because Emmett’s already done the dead boyfriend thing with George. I much prefer the idea of icing Michael because a) he’s irritating, b) it would send Ben the rest of the way over the edge and c) it would shake things up enormously.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/39 "2005-07-17T08:57:57Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Well maybe if she delivered them vaginally…

Thanks for imbedding that into my brain. I will now never be able to eat another cannolli again.

And yes, if Michael and/or Ben were to die, my SO and I would stand up and cheer…and as far as that goes, let’s hope they take that annoying interracial set of new neighbors with them.

I don’t know where this sudden media urge to show Gay couples adopt (QAF and Six Feet Under) has come from. Not a single Gay or Lesbian friend of mine has ever expressed any desire to adopt, and the only ones I know with children had them with previous relationships before they came out.

Brian has never been a sympathetic character to me, but his contempt of the “happy little Gay family suburbs” makes me like him a whole lot more.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-as-folk-potential-spoiler-alert/311490/40 "2005-07-17T09:22:35Z")

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Brian takes his contempt too far though. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a husband and a hiuse in the 'burbs. Brian makes the mistake of being unable to differentiate between “wrong” and “wrong for me.”

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