Queer Eye 9/2 - Josh D

I wish I hadn’t missed last week’s episode. Sounds like it was a lot better than this week’s.

Still, the guys doing that Three Stooges bit behind the glass in the health club was so funny, I nearly peed myself laughing.

His girlfriend may have liked it, but Josh was really acting like a dork in that club. Even I dance better!

If you watched the show, it was explicitly stated the the girlfriend wanted Josh to learn to dance, so yes, the goal was to make her happy by teaching him to dance.

Dance is movement, nothing more or less. If you can move, you can dance. If you don’t want to dance or are too self conscious to learn, fine, but anyone who can walk can dance.

I just don’t believe in that word, “can’t.”

Cue Blair’s new theme song, “Old Queens Just Keep Getting Bitter” (or the alterna-mix, “Dumped Queens Just Keep Getting Lawyers”).

Then don’t go ballroom dancing. Dancing in a club, however, doesn’t require you to dance specific steps in a specific routine. Just MOVE. Focus on the baseline and move. It sounds to me like you’re the only one slapping you to the curb.

You don’t see anything wrong with this?

If dancing were just movement, I’d be dancing all the time. Dance is more than movement. It is moving in a certain way to a certain rhythm. If you cannot keep time to a rhythm, you are just moving. It is the rhythm part that for some people just cannot be learned. I’m think I’m one of those people.

Unless, again, you have any examples to the contrary?

Yeah, dancing can be a little easier in a nightclub situation. You still do need to have some sense of rhythm, though. Focusing on the baseline hasn’t helped me, either.

And I really wish it were just me that slapped me to the curb.

Wait, that was a real club? It looked like someone’s basement.

Agreed, this was not a shining example of QE brilliance. A few funny moments at the gym, though.

One thing I couldn’t get over: Carson’s pink and green sweater.
We’re supposed to take fashion advice from a guy who’d wear THAT?

Things started promising. The guy seemed to dance a lot better with Jai than with his actual girlfriend. Once they got to the club, he barely even tried. The look of horror on Jai’s face said it all. I don’t think the fastest against-the-grain-with-a-dull-disposable shaver in the world could make Kyan as shocked and disappointed as Jai was.

See, I don’t claim to be a great dancer, but I can hear/feel beats. I hear the beat, I place one foot down and move the other, and put it down on the next beat (or the second-next beat depending on the bpm). It’s not pretty but it serves the purpose of moving with the beat. No one’s expecting me (or you) to launch into some showy routine but I simply can’t believe that if you can hear you can’t master the basic “can’t dance but want to step-kick” move that will at least get you out on the floor in a club.

Now if only I could figure out something to do with my arms…

I can hear the beat, certainly. I can even do the “can’t dance but want to step kick” move also, for a few minutes. I lose it after a while though, have to stop, retrace the beat in my head (it takes about a minute), and start over again for a few minutes more. After a while of this herky-jerkyness, I decide to just go to the bar for a Long Island Iced Tea.

The dance lessons the SO and I took were swing lessons. They showed me how to do the moves, so that’s not the problem. In fact, I still remember quite a few moves. The problem is when the music starts and I have to actually match the moves to music. Noone has ever been able to teach me to do that.

It may be that rhythm can be taught, but proof of concept has yet to be shown to me.

Remember that Josh knew he was being filmed for a nationwide TV show, and that five wise-asses were sitting around judging his every move. If that doesn’t give you performance anxiety . . .

We didn’t get to know this guy very well. He recently lost a lot of weight and he can’t dance, that was about it. Seems like we usually get some more info about the guy, don’t we?

I think he might have done better on the dance floor if his friends and family hadn’t been waiting for him at the club, checking him out.

Anyone else thing the girlfriend was auditioning for something?

This ep felt like a last-minute filler. Everything seemed rushed.

I can’t believe I still haven’t seen this show. Stupid cable not giving me all the channels I want.

:: kicks cable provider ::

all will soon be mended though. My friend is having a cocktail party the next time it’s on. I’ve already concocted a faaabulous drink using Danzka’s grapefruit vodka. Mmmm.

I don’t see anything wrong with occasionally doing something you don’t like to make your partner happy. It’s not like Angie herself said, “Learn to dance or I’m dumping you because I can’t love a non-dancer.”

If you’re always doing stuff you don’t want to do just to please your partner, that’s a different issue. Not so healthy, that.

And Eve once again demonstrates she just has class to throw around. But hear, hear, and AuntiePam, too. The well-known “dance like nobody’s watching” phrase doesn’t work too well when you got a friggin’ camera crew following you and half your family into the club. Let’s remember that virtually all “reality” shows actually place people in a VERY contrived, artificial scenario. some thrive in it, some fade in it.
(Didn’t the SDMB have a very similar discussion to this one on swimming a few weeks back? As in, absolute, vehement impossible-what’s your-problem expressions of disbelief that someone be unable to. Just because something comes naturally to a large plurality does not mean it’s &^%$# mandatory for all humanity
Some people are just extremely self-conscious, and “ordering” them to stop being so is pointless and insensitive to whatever made them that way. Others just ain’t got no sense of rhythm, plain and simple – for them there is no feedback loop based on “letting your body move”, because that body is happy as a clam to just stand there not moving, thank you very much. It happens – it takes all kinds. (In my case, yes, I can fake-dance. But, that said, I don’t go clubbing. I just don’t.)

That said, this straight guy was also wondering about some of the wardrobe choices.

What I think it boils down to is, sometimes in this show you will find someone who doesn’t quite catch on, for whom this was not the best approach.

(BTW, am I the only one here thinking that people who have been such utter slobs will within a year have that oh-so-chic redecorated crib turned once again into a just more-color-coordinated pigsty? )

I have to agree that Carson often seems to dress people like HE wants to dress. I was a little disappointed in this episode because as a tall guy, I thought I’d get some good tips.

Nada, other than a reminder I need to get a new pink dress shirt. Carson usually has one good suggestion per week, but he’s just capable of MORE! But he’s seemingly color and fabric blind at times, at least for those of us who would never wear a pink shirt, green tie and plaid sports coat.

Whistlepig

How does a “data entry technician” in his 20s afford his own one-bedroom apt. in TriBeCa? That’s what I want to know.

Good question. His Mom, though, didn’t look like an outer-borough shlub; she looked very together and well-dressed. Wonder if Mom and Dad are helping to subsidize the Joshter.

Dear gobear,

For someone as intelligent, well-educated, well-travelled, and as worldly as you are, I can’t believe you can make this sweeping generalization about people who cannot dance.

Hmmm. I guess sensitivity, communication, and attention to your partner’s needs all take second place to shakin’ yer ass on a dance floor to getting to that all-important, toe-curling orgasm.

Sincerely,
Java
(also known as Mrs. JustPlainBryan)

P.S. Your generalization is wrong. Dead wrong.

I was thinking about this last night, and I am wondering if this isn’t one of those cases where some of these guys just don’t have the cash to spend for the kind of furniture that the show is throwing around. From what I can tell, they spend some pretty serious cash on furniture. I’m willing to bet that they spent about $8000 just for the living room set alone. Josh made some comment to Angie about how he loved this sofa and would have picked it out himself.

How much does a one bedroom in TriBeCa run for anyhow?

This site says that rental of a studio or one-bedroom apt. in TriBeCa is in the range of $1,800—$4,000 per month. That’s $21,600—$48,00 per year.

Around where I live, data entry technicians make $12—$14 per hour, or $25,000—$29,200 year.