# "Queer Eye for South Park" (Oct. 22) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918 "2003-10-22T15:51:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/7cd45c/32.png) [@\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Deep_F_ied)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/21 "2003-10-23T17:08:02Z")
Famous producer of little known flicks such as “The Godfather”, **Juanita**. ---
**Author:** ![Kyann22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a4c791/32.png) [@Kyann22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyann22)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/22 "2003-10-23T18:15:58Z")
Anyone know when they will show this again? I know they usually replay them, sometimes on the weekend??? I have to see it! I love both shows, but I just can’t seem to remember what night/time SP comes on. I don’t think I’ll ever get used to this Central time thing. I still try to watch my shows on Eastern time! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![godzillatemple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@godzillatemple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godzillatemple)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/23 "2003-10-23T18:21:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by av8rmike \* > **I thought it was pretty funny, but IMHO South Park is starting to depend a little too heavily on the surreal or just plain bizarre elements.** As opposed to, I suppose, the early seasons, where episodes revolved around “normal” stuff like a talking, dancing Christmas poo… Barry ---
**Author:** ![Sauroposeidon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Sauroposeidon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauroposeidon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/24 "2003-10-23T19:29:36Z")
How am I supposed to see the new episodes in Canada? Our Comedy Network (AFAIK, the only channel here still airing South Park) played the Ladder to Heaven rerun last night. I don’t think they’ve given us any of the season 7 episodes yet. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/25 "2003-10-23T20:03:39Z")
I liked Mr. Garrison and Mr. Slave’s frustrated cruising, and Chef’s advice on how to keep ahead of the game. Oh, and “Stop! Stop! Don’t you see how _crazy_ this is?” “Of course, you’re right. We can _both_ kill them.” I was a little disillusioned to discover that “metrosexual” didn’t refer to folks who shared **matt\_mcl** ’s special [fetish](http://www.metrodemontreal.com/index-e.html), though, and further that it might be stretched to describe _me._ Am I going to have to throw out my half-size lavender jean-jacket and my leathers if _QEFTSG_ continues to be popular? I hate the idea of a pigeon-hole. “Jesus _Christ_.” ☹ **Sauroposeidon** , do you have an e-mail link, by any chance? Just, you know, askin’. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/26 "2003-10-23T21:27:53Z")
Passable episode. Middle of the pack. Not bad, not great. Some funny stuff and some stuff that didn’t work. The boys have gone back to the “weird creatures and their plan to take over the world” well a few too many times, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/27 "2003-10-23T23:20:21Z")
the zanyness is what makes the show great. If i wanted to see normal kids swear while normal stuff happens, i’d teach jr. high. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/28 "2003-10-23T23:30:32Z")
Were the “Crab People” a reference to an old DC comic or something? Or did Trey & Matt just pull that out of their asses, like an alien satellite dish? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/29 "2003-10-24T00:24:40Z")
If anything, I think they may have been a reference to William S. Burroughs’ world-domination-oriented Crab People that pop up here-and-there in his writings. ---
**Author:** ![Witch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Witch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Witch)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/30 "2003-10-24T00:49:35Z")
It was Ok. It was certainly no Cartman feeding Scott Tenorman his parents in a tasty chili though. ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/31 "2003-10-24T03:21:00Z")
It was funny till they started the crab people nonsense. Then it just sucked. Are Trey and Matt losing their edge? Is South Park starting to suck? Have they stayed too long at the party? Discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/32 "2003-10-24T03:22:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by av8rmike \* > \*\*I thought it was pretty funny, but IMHO South Park is starting to depend a little too heavily on the surreal or just plain bizarre elements. I know it’s easier to get away with on an animated show running during late night but it’s almost like, “what kind of alien or mutant will it be this week”. Gnomes stealing underpants? Aliens awarding a “Biggest Douche in the Universe” prize or making a reality show about the Earth? A giant spider running the Catholic Church telling priests to molest boys? > Nope this week it’s Crab people posing as gay guys to turn everyone into pansies. WTF? > I guess one can argue the bizarre-ness is the creators’ way of parodying the seemingly surrealism of real, topical events, but sometimes it feels tacked-on. \*\* I have a vague sense that they’re referencing animated series from the late '70s and early '80s. Not any specific show, just the general trend of ensemble shows that had an ongoing mission, and were constantly running into, and having to thwart, conspiracies to take over the universe. But I ate so much junk food in the '70s, I could be remembering wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/33 "2003-10-24T12:43:01Z")
I agree that the “crab people” thing fell a bit flat. I was expecting them to simply reveal that the Queer Eye guys weren’t really gay and were just exploiting gay culture to make money. Sometimes the really weird stuff in this show works, for example I thought the aliens awarding John Edwards the “Biggest Douche in the Universe” prize was hilarious. That wasn’t even a major point in the episode as the crab people thing was to this weeks, it was just there to emphasize what a douchebag John Edwards is. Another example is the ep with the people with asses for faces and in the end it’s revealed that Ben Affleck’s their long lost son. That rocked! Sometimes it doesn’t. Like in the Jakovasaur episode, probably the weakest ep of the entire series. As for the whole “monsters taking over the world thing” I have no problem with Trey and Matt returning to that well from time to as long as they can keep it funny. In this case it didn’t work so well, but it usually does. At any rate, relatively weak episode or not, this show is still funnier than just about anything else on TV, including at this the Simpsons. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/34 "2003-10-24T13:23:43Z")
Chef’s explanation of house --\> hizouse --\> hizzy --\> flippity floppity floop was priceless. ---
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/35 "2003-10-24T14:37:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by godzillatemple \* > **As opposed to, I suppose, the early seasons, where episodes revolved around “normal” stuff like a talking, dancing Christmas poo…** I’ll admit that, after I wrote what I did, I had to think hard about episodes that _didn’t_ have any kind of bizarre or surreal stuff. Were there even any? The weird stuff or “zaniness” works sometimes, other times it just seems to fall flat, like this week. I can almost imagine Matt & Trey writing half an episode and saying, “but up to now it’s too normal. There aren’t any non-human characters yet!” Then they come up with some far-out plot just for its own sake. So, in the “the show is still better than everything else on TV” heirarchy, if it goes South Park \> Simpsons \> everything else, what comes after Simpsons? or before South Park? ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/36 "2003-10-25T13:10:48Z")
I think it would be better to say that South Park and the Simpsons are FUNNIER than anything else on TV (I’d put The Daily Show third in that category, by the way) but better? I think The Shield (when they’re showing first run episodes) is probably the best show on TV. That’s just my opinion though. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/37 "2003-10-25T17:40:55Z")
I noticed a little error in the episode. Mr. Garrison gave the impression that he and Mr. slave were the only gay people in southpark, but strangely enough, in the Butters Episode that came right before it, Butter’s dad seemed to be interacting with plenty of gay people in downtown southpark(and considering Mr. Garrison was there too, it seem wierd that he’d make that statement). It seems that there’s obivously enough gay people in southpark to keep a bathhouse in operation. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/38 "2003-10-25T22:57:27Z")
HPL, continuity means nothing in South Park. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/39 "2003-10-25T23:03:12Z")
And what about Big Gay Al? In response to **av8rmike** , I’d have to rank Family Guy up there as possibly the funniest of all, even though it only stuck around for three oddly-timed seasons. As raunchy and hilarious as South Park at its best, and way more entertaining than the last few years of Simpsons. **Fibber McGee** , The Shield is my favorite show too (by a long shot), but I have a hard time comparing it to those three brilliant cartoons. Apples and oranges, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918/40 "2003-10-25T23:30:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Big Bad Voodoo Lou \* > **As raunchy…as South Park at its best** Not even close. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-south-park-oct-22/208918.md?page=3)