# Queer Eye for the.... Gay Guy! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770 "2004-06-29T21:29:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/1 "2004-06-29T21:29:13Z")
Tonight’s episode of _Queer Eye for the Straight Guy_ features the Fab Five making over a gay man who, apparently, has no sense of fashion or style. The show has been, for tonight only, temporarily renamed _Queer Eye for the Gay Guy_. Which raises an interesting question. If a straight man who is into style and fashion is called a **metrosexual** , then what do you call a gay guy who has no sense of fashion or style? My pick? **Retrosexual**. Only problem is it sounds like Scooby Doo saying “metrosexual.” ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/2 "2004-06-29T21:59:09Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > Which raises an interesting question. If a straight man who is into style and fashion is called a **metrosexual** , then what do you call a gay guy who has no sense of fashion or style? A Bear. (😉 **swampbear** ) **Homebrew** Straight-Acting Closet Case ---
**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/3 "2004-06-29T23:12:02Z")
Now that the boys are branching out, I’d like to see what they’d do with a, dare I say it, a woman! After all, Thom, Jai and Ted do stuff appropriate for clueless individuals of any gender or orientation, and I’m sure both Carson and Kyan could handle a crossover. I mean, good fashion is good fashion, and women need their eyebrows waxed, too. Just think how catty they all could be about a woman with smelly curtains and frumpy clothes! Really, the Fab Five is simply too fabulous to be confined to one gender. That said, I am looking forward to tonight’s show. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/4 "2004-06-29T23:30:42Z")
Wow, I never thought they’d have done something like this. I thought it was kind of the basis of the whole show, the assumption that gay guys inherently have a sense of style. Apparently the basis is more about advertising products to people with lots of disposable income. Once again capitalism defeats the Gay Menace! Truly we live in an enlightened age. Now those of us who dress poorly, can’t cook, and have homes that still look like our bedrooms when we were twelve years old, can still have a bunch of flamboyantly gay men come and mock us on television. ::sniff:: It’s beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/5 "2004-06-30T01:32:46Z")
They can come into my house and mock me all they want, so long as there are spa treatments and, possibly, sweaty yoga with my sweet sweet Kyan. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/6 "2004-06-30T01:51:00Z")
So, if they do a makeover on a woman, would it be Queer Eye for the Non-Guy? ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/7 "2004-06-30T02:07:44Z")
> [@Kallessa](#): > > Now that the boys are branching out, I’d like to see what they’d do with a, dare I say it, a woman! After all, Thom, Jai and Ted do stuff appropriate for clueless individuals of any gender or orientation, and I’m sure both Carson and Kyan could handle a crossover. I mean, good fashion is good fashion, and women need their eyebrows waxed, too. > > Just think how catty they all could be about a woman with smelly curtains and frumpy clothes! Really, the Fab Five is simply too fabulous to be confined to one gender. > > That said, I am looking forward to tonight’s show. It is in development already. Queer Eye for the Straight Girl. That said, if my bf and I were in the NYC metro area, we would have called them a long time ago. Two gay men with no fashion sense and an appalling lack of design decor. Help us please! lol ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/8 "2004-06-30T02:17:38Z")
Oy, is this guy a loser. He needs an “AntiDepressant Guy” rather than a Culture Guru or Style Maven. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/9 "2004-06-30T02:56:39Z")
Yeah, this guy is totally affectless. It’s not that he has a bad personality; it’s that he has no personality… at all. He’s the human equivalent of a waterlogged carpet. Well, there must be more to this mopey man than is conveyed in a 1-hr. show, because he has normal, interesting friends… What is it he does for a living? (Does he have to interact with people?) I missed the intro part. Anybody else get the feeling that even the Fab 5 were getting a bit exasperated with his limitations? ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/10 "2004-06-30T03:23:09Z")
Ho yeah, they were. Thom did wonders with the apartment, truly, although the furniture was bad but not inexpensive to begin with. I too wonder what Wayne does for a living. Usually they tell you. But… That was a total flatline of a human personality tonight. I was amazed Kyan didn’t even try to do anything with his carrot-top (his HAIR, you pervs). The only time he showed any personality was the Woody-Allenesque kvetching at the hors d’oeuvres. And how Noo Yawk was his mom? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/11 "2004-06-30T03:41:36Z")
What was the name of the club with the open mike? I missed it. Agreed, this guy was a Major Mope, capital M, capital M. He always had a puss on him like he was smelling something bad which I can understand before the makeover but not after. And what was with the bags filled with bags full of bags? Don’t crazy people do that? I have this odd feeling that MM might have some emotional problems linked to 9/11. I realize they said he broke up with someone five years ago but he was apparently dating between then and 9/11 and he pinpointed that date as when he stopped dating. Some sort of bizarre PTSD manifesting itself in the inability to socialize? ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/12 "2004-06-30T05:35:40Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Oy, is this guy a loser. He needs an “AntiDepressant Guy” rather than a Culture Guru or Style Maven. No kidding! For a while I wondered if he was blind, due to the way he never really looked anyone in the eye. ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/13 "2004-06-30T11:43:45Z")
But “retro” mean behind, right? Retrosexual sounds like a bad joke about gay guys… ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/14 "2004-06-30T14:31:48Z")
And why fix up a 5th floor walk-up apartment? MOVE! (I believe it was Philo of Alexandria who said “Better a 2 BR coop in Brooklyn than a fifth floor closet in Manhattan”.) I’d LOVE to be able to get to NYC this coming week to see Jai in RENT. (He’s returning to the role of Angel from July 5-17, although… bitchy comment in 4…3…2…1… have you noticed he’s gotten a bit pudgy to be believable as a last stages AIDS patient?) ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/15 "2004-06-30T15:19:40Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Oy, is this guy a loser. He needs an “AntiDepressant Guy” rather than a Culture Guru or Style Maven. He made me depressed! What a Mope! And he didn’t seem to really like anything the Fab Five did for him. Maybe his job is “Professional Wet Blanket.” ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/16 "2004-06-30T15:39:57Z")
Grilled cheese, hot dogs, and hamburgers; no vegetables, no meat that you can tell is from an animal? I think they call that the ages 4 to 8 diet. Grow up, man! ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/17 "2004-06-30T15:49:49Z")
Ugh. He reminded me of my boss. He had no personality, but whining and rolling his eyes. For a second there, I thought Ted was going to throw the salad at him. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/18 "2004-06-30T16:20:55Z")
We’re talking Don “No Soul” Simmons here, huh? ---
**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/19 "2004-06-30T22:57:34Z")
> [@](#): > > If a straight man who is into style and fashion is called a metrosexual, then what do you call a gay guy who has no sense of fashion or style? I caught this show sheerly by chance last night… well, no… actually because _there’s nothing but crap_ on TV this time of year, but that’s a different thread for a different forum. Anyway, my wife kept poking me as we watched it, because so many things about that man’s flat reminded her about the apartment I lived in when she met me. (The ‘masturbatorium’ comment was the kicker, though.) (/1) So it became quite clear to me. There are indeed **gay nerds**. /1: There are a couple of important difference however. Namely, a) _I’m not gay_, and b) _I’m not a whining, anal retentive, borderline agoraphobic nerd_. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770/20 "2004-07-01T00:00:36Z")
> [@bughunter](#): > > There are indeed **gay nerds**. :eek: I’m **shocked**. Shocked, I tell you! Seriously, though, is that really a surprise to anyone at all? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queer-eye-for-the-gay-guy/252770.md?page=2)