# Question about artwork from The Andy Griffith Show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [February 7, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260 "2024-02-07T19:42:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/1 "2024-02-07T19:42:58Z")
On the closing credits of The Andy Griffith Show, there’s a sketch of a lake and some trees, presumably a sketch of the lake often featured in Mayberry and to which Andy and Opie are walking in the opening credits (Myers Lake?) Here’s a pic: [https://images.app.goo.gl/W8gBNUanspjwEiJN9](https://images.app.goo.gl/W8gBNUanspjwEiJN9) Does anyone know anything about this sketch? The original artist? Anything out there that doesn’t have the credits overtop? I did find a guy named Gregory Hugh Leng who created a sketch of the sketch and sold copies online in the past. I’m wondering about the original however. Any info would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/2 "2024-02-07T20:06:11Z")
Keep in mind that those were added for syndication. When you see something in the corner like that during the closing credits, they are a replacement for a sponsor’s logo that appeared on the network broadcasts (I think Kellogg’s Corn Flakes for _The Andy Griffith Show_). Repeats of _The Dick van Dyke Show_ and _My Three Sons_ also have this, and the black-and white episodes of _F Troop_ just have a blank space in one corner (when they couldn’t find a print that didn’t have the Quaker Oats logo, they would just cut from the start of the credits right to the end). ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/3 "2024-02-07T20:14:31Z")
I remember when the closing of _ **The Rifleman** _ had a little box of Tide in the lower left hand corner. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/4 "2024-02-07T20:17:18Z")
Huh, I did not know that ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/5 "2024-02-07T20:44:33Z")
There wasn’t much technology to help in those days. _Cut and paste_ was meant literally when creating credits and title screens. > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > and the black-and white episodes of _F Troop_ just have a blank space in one corner (when they couldn’t find a print that didn’t have the Quaker Oats logo, they would just cut from the start of the credits right to the end). When The Adventures of Superman was first sent to syndication there was an opening line in the title narration about Kellogg’s Cornflakes. Portions of Kellogg’s commercials were also seen at the beginning and end of The Beverly Hillbillies in reruns. These old shows were filmed originally and someone had to get on a moviola and cut out the unneeded frames. That was considered a waste of time and money before the future value of the content was understood. The advent of videotape made the job somewhat easier since no physical cutting and joining was needed anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/6 "2024-02-07T22:24:18Z")
Man, that’s a revelation! I always thought the unbalanced staggering of credits was a weird design choice that was in vogue for a brief time in the early 1960s. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/7 "2024-02-07T22:59:32Z")
Cigarettes (mainly Winstons, I believe) were also plugged on a lot of shows. Jed and Granny were often showed enjoying a smoke, as were Fred and Barney. Wilma too. > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c) > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEx44ETP8Ac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEx44ETP8Ac) The opening theme on _ **The Beverly Hillbillies** _ had Flatt and Scruggs pushing corn flakes with _… And that includes the products from the sponsor of the week,_ _the best to you each morning, Kellogg’s of Battle Creek._ It’s a little unsettling that I remember that jingle after sixty years. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/8 "2024-02-07T23:25:34Z")
The last little bit of the show is called “the dump.” It the part on Inside Edition where they show the same little vids like in Daily Dose of Internet. But in the 60’s they were used to plug the sponsor. An example that was at the end of [Go West, Young Martian](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x80d250). Tim and Martin bring back an Indian with their time machine, the fade-out laugh being he’s mimicking the [End of the Trail](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_the_Trail_(Fraser)#/media/File%3AEnd_of_the_Trail%2C_by_James_Earle_Fraser.jpg) statue. After the regular commercials, they returned for a quick plug, showing them all eating Kellogs Corn Flakes the next morning,then roll credits. But they cut that for the archived edition of the episode. Which is too bad, because much of our fondness for these old shows was how stupid they were. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/9 "2024-02-08T02:33:06Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > When The Adventures of Superman was first sent to syndication there was an opening line in the title narration about Kellogg’s Cornflakes. Do you mean the “strange visitor from another planet…” bit? How could they work corn flakes into that? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/10 "2024-02-08T02:44:29Z")
Supe flies into Jimmy Olson’s apartment to bring him a box of cereal for breakfast? Lois Lane walks into Perry White’s office while he’s digging into a bowl? Clark Kent having a snack with Jimmy and Lois on the job? The possibilities are endless! ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/11 "2024-02-08T03:13:38Z")
Someone compiled clips from Burns and Allen of how they integrated [Carnation Milk](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JdebXqME9Bk) ads into the script ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/12 "2024-02-08T04:06:26Z")
From wikipedia: > [@](#): > > Kellogg, ‘The Greatest Name In Cereals’, presents the _Adventures of Superman_! > > Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a mighty locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings at a single bound! > > (“Look! Up in the sky!” “It’s a bird!” “It’s a plane!” “It’s Superman!”) > > Yes, it’s Superman … strange visitor from another planet, who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men! Superman … who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands, and who, disguised as, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way! > > And now, another exciting episode in the _Adventures of Superman_! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/13 "2024-02-08T05:12:56Z")
Just to add, I imagine most of us who have seen _I Love Lucy_ associate the opening credits with the famous heart on a silk backdrop. That was added purely for syndication as the original opening featured whatever the sponsor at the time might have been. They were pretty shameless about integrating commercial messages into the show. There was one episode that was a bit shorter than usual, and at the end, it featured Lucy calling Ricky from a Ford dealership, and excitedly telling him about the new Ford hardtop convertible where a steel roof automatically folds down into the trunk, which is then duly demonstrated. Ricky thinks she’s nuts because such a miraculous thing could not be possible! > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Keep in mind that those were added for syndication. When you see something in the corner like that during the closing credits, they are a replacement for a sponsor’s logo that appeared on the network broadcasts You’re correct in general, but I don’t think that was the case for the artwork in the _Andy Griffith_ closing credits. I remember as a kid being very excited when a brand new TV channel came to our city, an outlet for a brand new Canadian TV network, CTV. One of the shows I enjoyed watching was _The Andy Griffith Show_. Looking at the relevant dates, the show ran from October, 1960, to April, 1968. The CTV network was founded in 1961, so those early shows I watched were weekly network broadcasts, not syndication, and I distinctly remember that iconic image in the end credits. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/14 "2024-02-08T05:39:04Z")
Here’s a _ **Bonanza** _ and _ **Bewitched** _ crossover for Chevrolet: > [https://youtu.be/IbblrSXVF7c?t=1](https://youtu.be/IbblrSXVF7c?t=1) ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/15 "2024-02-08T05:43:44Z")
Feel bad we can’t answer the OP, though. Do furniture stores still sell paintings like that? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/16 "2024-02-08T06:33:44Z")
I’d just make my own copies. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/17 "2024-02-08T07:39:00Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > You’re correct in general, but I don’t think that was the case for the artwork in the _Andy Griffith_ closing credits. I remember as a kid being very excited when a brand new TV channel came to our city, an outlet for a brand new Canadian TV network, CTV. One of the shows I enjoyed watching was _The Andy Griffith Show_. Looking at the relevant dates, the show ran from October, 1960, to April, 1968. The CTV network was founded in 1961, so those early shows I watched were weekly network broadcasts, not syndication, and I distinctly remember that iconic image in the end credits. You must be a little older than me, but only a little. I remember watching _The Andy Griffith Show_ in first-run also (and likely on CTV), and I remember the art of the trees and lake with the end credits. Same for _The Dick Van Dyke Show_, with the sketch of Dick Van Dyke in the lower left corner. Never saw a sponsor’s product in the end credits of those shows; at least, not that I remember. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/18 "2024-02-08T07:55:04Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > they returned for a quick plug, showing them all eating Kellogs Corn Flakes the next morning,then roll credits When I was watching _The Dick VanDyke_ show on Netflix a few of them included commercials that were done by the cast, but none were cigarettes. I am currently going through _Perry Mason_ on FreeVee and the end credits still have Procter and Gamble vignettes in the corner. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/19 "2024-02-08T15:09:39Z")
It sounds like the trees may have been there first, as a placeholder for the sponsor. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260/20 "2024-02-08T16:14:15Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > You must be a little older than me, but only a little. I remember watching _The Andy Griffith Show_ in first-run also (and likely on CTV), and I remember the art of the trees and lake with the end credits. Same for _The Dick Van Dyke Show_, with the sketch of Dick Van Dyke in the lower left corner. Never saw a sponsor’s product in the end credits of those shows; at least, not that I remember. Same here. I can’t recall sponsors’ images in Dick Van Dyke or Andy Griffith or Twilight Zone. Regarding I Love Lucy, I was very surprised to learn that in their original run the opening credits not only included nods to the sponsors, but were _animated_. > [@](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPTo7kbM3Js](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPTo7kbM3Js) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etCR6cSb1GI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etCR6cSb1GI) > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_1rpAUhbARY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1rpAUhbARY) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-artwork-from-the-andy-griffith-show/997260.md?page=2)