# Question about Frasier Crane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 24, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011 "2005-03-24T05:58:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/21 "2005-03-25T00:19:25Z")
I guess I just needed to catch more Frasier episodes, I’ve seen a good chunk of them but never saw the ones with Frederick in them. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/22 "2005-03-25T00:31:58Z")
On **Frasier** did they ever mention that he was married before Lillith to “Nanny Gee” - played by Emma Thompson in an episode of **Cheers**? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/23 "2005-03-25T00:39:57Z")
> [@Dooku](#): > > On **Frasier** did they ever mention that he was married before Lillith to “Nanny Gee” - played by Emma Thompson in an episode of **Cheers**? Yes, one episode had a despondant Frasier holing up alone in the Crane family cabin and having imaginary visits from all the significant women in his life. His mother, Diane, Lilith, and “Nanny Gee” were all there. Nanny Gee wasn’t played by Emma Thompson though. They explained away the dissimilarity by depicting her as the youthful hippie she’d been when Frasier met her at Harvard. ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/24 "2005-03-25T00:41:30Z")
There was another episode where Nanny G comes to Seattle and Frasier agrees to get free tickets for Roz and her daughter. In this episode, Nanny was played by Laurie Metcalf. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/25 "2005-03-25T13:05:55Z")
> [@Agrippina](#): > > There was another episode where Nanny G comes to Seattle and Frasier agrees to get free tickets for Roz and her daughter. In this episode, Nanny was played by Laurie Metcalf. The ending to that episode was one of Fraiser’s finer moments. Maybe Fraiser is both a psychiatrist AND a psychologist, and holds an MD and PhD. The writers on Cheers and Fraiser decided to make Frederick age in real time, and not go from baby to 5 to teen in three years like most TV children. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/26 "2005-03-25T14:06:58Z")
Frasier was well-established as having attended Harvard and Oxford. Did he get his undergrad at Harvard, and his MD at Oxford? Or did he get both degrees at Harvard and do post-doc work at Oxford? I feel certain this has been addressed. ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/27 "2005-03-25T14:49:12Z")
I am reminded of the episode where Sam threw out his back (on the night he was going to date three women simultaneously, or another similarly Sam-like maneuver.) Frasier says something like, "This should hurt . . . " and applies pressure to Sam’s back. Sam howls in pain, and Frasier turns to Lilith and says triumphantly, “See, Lilith! I could _so_ have been a real doctor!” ---
**Author:** ![rpinrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@rpinrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rpinrd)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/28 "2005-03-25T18:47:45Z")
Quick tangent here: I seem to recall that in the early Frasier episodes, Daphne believed that she had some psychic capacity. Not like visions in Charmed or anything, but she definitely thought of herself as having some ability that she thought was real. No one else remembers this. Am I making it up? ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/29 "2005-03-25T19:03:16Z")
> [@rpinrd](#): > > Quick tangent here: > I seem to recall that in the early Frasier episodes, Daphne believed that she had some psychic capacity. Not like visions in Charmed or anything, but she definitely thought of herself as having some ability that she thought was real. > > No one else remembers this. Am I making it up? No, I remember that. And IIRC, she would have them occasionally throughout the series. I think she just kept them under wraps because of the more scientifically oriented Crane brothers. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/30 "2005-03-25T19:33:48Z")
> [@Agrippina](#): > > There was another episode where Nanny G comes to Seattle and Frasier agrees to get free tickets for Roz and her daughter. In this episode, Nanny was played by Laurie Metcalf. I loved her line from that episode. She’s desperately wanting to get out of being a children’s entertainer and return to serious stage work and asks Frasier (this is in the series last season) Nanny G: Frasier, if you knew how bored I am, being “Nanny Gee.” How trapped I feel… Frasier: You have a wonderful career. Nanny G: But nothing ever changes! Do you have any idea what it’s like to play the same character for twenty years? One of TV’s best in-jokes. My favorite line related to Frederick was Lilith’s: If he wants something badly enough, he will figure out a way to get it. Remember when he was a baby, the bottle at the end of the maze? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/31 "2005-03-25T19:38:35Z")
PS- Does anybody know if it’s just coincidence that Frasier’s vicious she-wolf of a manager was named ‘Bebe’ (same as Bebe Neuwirth, but pronounced differently). ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/32 "2005-03-26T00:53:24Z")
> [@rpinrd](#): > > Quick tangent here: > I seem to recall that in the early Frasier episodes, Daphne believed that she had some psychic capacity. Not like visions in Charmed or anything, but she definitely thought of herself as having some ability that she thought was real. > > No one else remembers this. Am I making it up? They appeared again during the long protracted Donny/Niles marriage debacle. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011/33 "2005-03-26T01:03:18Z")
> [@rpinrd](#): > > Quick tangent here: > I seem to recall that in the early Frasier episodes, Daphne believed that she had some psychic capacity. Not like visions in Charmed or anything, but she definitely thought of herself as having some ability that she thought was real. > > No one else remembers this. Am I making it up? > [@Odinoneeye](#): > > No, I remember that. And IIRC, she would have them occasionally throughout the series. I think she just kept them under wraps because of the more scientifically oriented Crane brothers. FWIW, I vaguely remember seeing Jane Leeves on some sort of late-night talk show, and she mentions that the psychic aspect of Roz’s character was dialed back because, "Kelsey and David were so great at being really outrageous and pretentious and thinking that they’re superior to everyone, so it didn’t fit for Daphne to be kooky and insisting that she’s psychic all the time as well… they made her more grounded, as one more person in the brother’s lives that they could bounce off of.’ Probably misremembering the wording, but that sort of sentiment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-frasier-crane/296011.md?page=1)