# Question about Kyomara and his/her banning **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2002, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470 "2002-03-15T14:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/1 "2002-03-15T14:57:23Z")
First of all this to clarify things not to call y’all Nazi bastards 😉 Was Kyomara banned because of [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103840) thread? If not and he was banned for something else (sock, trolling that I haven’t seen etc.) then fuck him **but** if he was banned for what happened in that thread I have a question. Is this the way things are going here? A hijack starts, A moderator comes in and lays down a serious warning. 7 mins later a post from **Kyomara** appears. This is well within the time period where the poster may not have seen **manhattans** warning. **TubaDiva** then comes in and says > [@](#): > > Don’t see any apology, have received no email. and the poster is banned. WTF 😕 What if the guy just posted and went off line? This banning seems very very harsh to me and if this way of going about things becomes consistent over the whole board then a lot of people are going to be banned and a lot of people are going to get angry. What happened to warnings that didn’t threaten banning immediately and just moving the thread to GD etc. Anyway as I said if the poster (who I don’t know at all BTW) was banned for something else then grand but if this is the reason then colour me confused? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/2 "2002-03-15T15:40:48Z")
If he was banned for that, it was _way_ too fast. He posted 7 minutes after the warning, was banned, and then **Tuba Diva** said it was allright because she hadn’t received an e-mail or apology twenty minutes later. Twenty fucking minutes. I doubt **Kyomara** was a sock (338 posts is a lot for a sock) and I haven’t seen any evidence of him trolling, so what the fuck is up with this, mods? This is far more asshole-ish than you guys have ever been. Unless there is some other reason for his banning, I feel that it is you who owe **Kyomara** an apology. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/3 "2002-03-15T15:57:25Z")
Agreed. This board has always been a bit overmoderated IMHO, but if that one post is the only reason Kyomara got banned, the problem is far worse than I thought. ---
**Author:** ![ScoobyTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@ScoobyTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScoobyTX)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/4 "2002-03-15T15:57:39Z")
It is my understanding that banning isn’t necessarily permanent. But there was a _blatent_ violation of the warning **Manny** gave _directly_ after he gave the warning. From **Tuba** ’s message, I get the feeling that **Kyomara** has some explainin’ to do, and will not be able to post 'til he does. Maybe there needs to be a separate “suspended” category, since “BANNED” does have a permanent ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/5 "2002-03-15T16:01:43Z")
I don’t understand why hijacking has lately become a mortal sin. I can’t tell you how many times a banal OP has turned into an interesting one because of a hijack. It happens in real life conversations, too. The guys will be sitting around talking about transmissions, and next thing you know, they’re discussing Cuba. I’ve always defended the mods. I wouldn’t do their job for love or money. I suspect there was some “background” that led to **Kyomara’s** banning, but if it was based soley on that post, then I’m speechless. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/6 "2002-03-15T16:06:05Z")
I agree - it looks unnecessarily harsh, if that’s the entire story. I presume this is the offending statement: > [@](#): > > I am really ashamed of the fact that George W. Bush is the president of my country. I think he’s a bumbling, boring, inarticulate buffoon. Doesn’t even sound exclusively political… it sounds personal. He could have gone on to say “I think he’s a bumbling, boring, inarticulate buffoon, _but despite this, he’s doing a great job_.” OK that’s stretching it a bit, and it’s still in contravention of the rules, but all the same… ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/7 "2002-03-15T16:07:15Z")
Rereading the message again - I had another thought. It doesn’t really look like that much of a political statement anyway. I think the guy is just tempering his statement with the fact that he isn’t one of Bush’s fans. The fact that he defended Bush in this case seems all the more salient considering his political leaning, which I assume is why he mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/8 "2002-03-15T16:36:46Z")
What say we hold off on the flinging of shit until we get a word from a mod, hmm? I don’t suppose anyone thought to ask **Tuba** directly, huh? Thought not. (Hint: [tubadiva@aol.com](mailto:tubadiva@aol.com).) ---
**Author:** ![cheezit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@cheezit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheezit)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/9 "2002-03-15T16:46:49Z")
The last time I looked, the SDMB had basically 1 rule. And that is “Don’t be a jerk”. If what **Kyomara** did was being a jerk, then I suggest that **every single solitary person** that is registered on the SDMB, all 20,000 + of them should have the word BANNED under their name. No faster than this board is, it could have easily been possible that **Kyomara** posted at the same time that the warning was given and s/he did not even see it. Fighting ignorance, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/10 "2002-03-15T16:52:36Z")
**andros** I’ve been here long enough to know her email address. I’ve even used it when I wanted to. I don’t think this is a email thing. So if it’s ok with you I’ll just continue. [entering annoying patronizing mode] Do you know what one of the reasons for the pit is? [hint] From the forum description > [@](#): > > This is the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding administration of the SDMB . [leaving annoying patronizing mode] If I wanted to take it to email I would of I didn’t and I haven’t thrown any shit I asked a question. ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Willy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sweet\_Willy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Willy)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/11 "2002-03-15T16:56:15Z")
This looks a little over bearing to me too. He did not obey the Moderator but the time frame of the whole thing reeks. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/12 "2002-03-15T17:00:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\*What say we hold off on the flinging of shit until we get a word from a mod, hmm? > > I don’t suppose anyone thought to ask **Tuba** directly, huh? Thought not. (Hint: [tubadiva@aol.com](mailto:tubadiva@aol.com).) \*\* You know, this is an equally stupid suggestion when it is inevitably made in threads such as this. The moderators acted very publicly. _If_ they are going to explain their actions (and I say “if,” I don’t care if they do) then there is no reason they shouldn’t do it here on the board where everybody can see the answer. It does appear that he was banned for a very slight infraction that he had no idea he was committing; it is entirely reasonable to assume that he never saw the warning before posting. If he is going to be banned then all the previously political posters (is Manny mostly upset because most of the political comments are at odds with his politics?) should be banned. It is certainly possible that something else happened in those 20 minutes (between Kyomara’s post and TubaDiva’s defending of his banning) but since that post was his first in almost 24 whatever it was apparently happened off the boards. I respectfully submit that manny simply wants us to think he has a big penis buy beating people about the ears with it. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/13 "2002-03-15T17:08:55Z")
I also believe the banning was a might quick, and petty. The timing of the warning and the offending post, are close. And what if Kyomara never saw the warning, wrote his post, pushed submit, and left? What then? The statement didin’t really even sound political. WTF? Are members going to have to start walking around on egg shells now? It just doesn’t make much sense. 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/14 "2002-03-15T17:40:20Z")
> [@](#): > > It is certainly possible that something else happened in those 20 minutes (between Kyomara’s post and TubaDiva’s defending of his banning) I happened to be watching the thread at the time, and TubaDiva posted well before Kyomara was banned. Tuba’s post looked nothing like a “defense” of a banning at the time it first appeared. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/15 "2002-03-15T17:45:43Z")
Goddammit, I lost my first post to the dead database gods… Firstly, my apologies, **Yojimbo**. I didn’t mean to splash paint on you. I think your OP was reasonable and polite. But for fuck’s sake, **obfus** , I meant someone might want to email **Tuba** to let her know this thread is even here. It’s not like she’s busy or anything these days. So seeing as how it’s going to be a while before we get her response, there’s not a whole lot of point in bullshit speculation without the facts, now is there? Jesus, how tough is this? Get the facts, _then_ get pissed off. Unless it’s just an excuse to whip out the ol’ “the mods suck” hardon. It certainly seems you have on for **manny**. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/16 "2002-03-15T17:47:56Z")
As I’ve said if there is something other that whats on the board the grand ban him. Actually they can ban anyone. It’s their playground etc but I’m just looking for clarifation. Do we really start to minding our P&Q’s a bit more? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/17 "2002-03-15T17:53:59Z")
No probs **andros** 🙂 Maybe I was a bit too quick. Mailing **Tuba** to let her know about the thread is actually a good idea. I’ll do that right now. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/18 "2002-03-15T18:01:19Z")
I’ll wait to hear from Tuba before I form an opinion about what she did. In general, I trust her, even though she’s been a bit edgy lately, which is understandable given the circumstances. I’ve never known her to be anything other than generous and fair. But overall, this whole thing is why I don’t post in Great Debates anymore. I used to consider it my home away from home, and any of you who know me know that it was by far my favorite forum. I haven’t posted there since the new board came up, and I have no intention of posting there. I was accused — falsely — of hijacking, not just once but twice, a thread over at BBboy that had been moved from General Questions to Great Debates. I made an appeal. It fell on deaf ears. Rumors flew that I would be banned. It was a bizarre episode, really. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/19 "2002-03-15T18:05:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\*But for fuck’s sake, **obfus** , I meant someone might want to email **Tuba** to let her know this thread is even here. \*\* Oh, don’t get a twit. That isn’t what you meant and isn’t even close to what you said. **Jesus, how tough is this? Get the facts, _then_ get pissed off.** I’m not pissed off. I’m not even upset. > [@](#): > > \*\*Unless it’s just an excuse to whip out the ol’ “the mods suck” hardon. It certainly seems you have on for **manny**. \*\* Now that hurts. I don’t think the mods suck, and I have nothing against manny; but he certainly went off for little reason. Ignoring the ban, the warning was bullshit in the first place. I think I’ll go post something political in that thread. That way I can get get banned for doing something that happens dozens of times a week (that is, hijacking GQ questions with personal opinion). ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2002, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470/20 "2002-03-15T18:19:40Z")
> [@](#): > > That isn’t what you meant and isn’t even close to what you said. it is most certainly what I meant. But you’re quite right, it wasn’t what I said, and I apologize for saying something that you found “stupid.” > [@](#): > > I have nothing against manny Then please forgive me for assuming you do. It certainly seemed that way when you said: > [@](#): > > manny simply wants us to think he has a big penis buy beating people about the ears with it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-kyomara-and-his-her-banning/98470.md?page=2)