# Question about Star Trek canon after the latest movie \[\[edited title; spoilers inside\]\]

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**Created:** [June 28, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-star-trek-canon-after-the-latest-movie-edited-title-spoilers-inside/544815 "2010-06-28T18:00:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-star-trek-canon-after-the-latest-movie-edited-title-spoilers-inside/544815/61 "2010-07-12T20:13:34Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> You don’t get off that easy. You have to watch ST:V with a religious fundamentalist and a rabid whig. And, you have drink tranya and eat orange jello whilst so involved.

Details?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-star-trek-canon-after-the-latest-movie-edited-title-spoilers-inside/544815/62 "2010-07-12T20:43:45Z")

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> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#):
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> So I wonder if Nimoy-Spock gave the Federation a full debriefing on what he knows is out there…
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> “So if you run across a 20th century ship called _Botney Bay_, just torpedo that shit. Trust me on that one. Oh, and then there’s this Guardian thing that’s like a portal to the past. But don’t go there or Harlan Ellison will sue your ass.”
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> I wonder if Talos IV has been discovered in the JJ-verse.

I would LOVE for the (inevitable) sequel to start with a James Bond-style brief outtake, showing the Enterprise dealing with the Botany Bay…

Kirk: Botany Bay… that’s on the list, isn’t it?

Spock: Indeed it is. (taps computer screen) Recommended disposal: all crew to be left in suspended animation and sent to Earth for revival and imprisonment.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-star-trek-canon-after-the-latest-movie-edited-title-spoilers-inside/544815/63 "2010-07-12T20:55:02Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Nope, branching is used for the first time in the new movie.

Any particular reason we’re ignoring “Year of Hell” and all of ST:ENT?

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-star-trek-canon-after-the-latest-movie-edited-title-spoilers-inside/544815/64 "2010-07-13T13:14:02Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Any particular reason we’re ignoring “Year of Hell” and all of ST:ENT?

Any particular reason you’re assuming Enterprise involves branching? I can’t really address Year of Hell, as it was an arc on Star Trek : Lost in Space, which I didn’t watch.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-star-trek-canon-after-the-latest-movie-edited-title-spoilers-inside/544815/65 "2010-07-13T14:14:23Z")

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Year of Hell erased itself, and there’s no reason to think Enterprise was an alternate anything; it’s referenced in both timelines because it took place before Nero showed up and made Vulcan art really, really valuable.

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